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Some 400,000 Americans may see their tax refund checks grabbed by the government after Congress quietly lifted the 10-year statute of limitations in 2011 on money owed to Uncle Sam.

Now, debts going back decades are considered fair game for the IRS, and the government is coming after the children and grandchildren of the original debtors for the repayment.

In some cases, debts of parents from the early 1960s and 70s are being collected from children.

In many cases, the IRS doesn't even possess the original records of the debts.
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This is outrageous, the government going after in some cases the grandchildren to pay a past debt. Our government is out of control, both houses of congress and the white house.
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Other than the fact that there are actually laws against this kind of thing, if you let them get away with it, you deserve having it done. Guess we will have to start up debtors prisons soon.
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Other than the fact that there are actually laws against this kind of thing, if you let them get away with it, you deserve having it done. Guess we will have to start up debtors prisons soon.
The law that prevented this expired in 2011, that is why the IRS can get away with it. It is up to congress to fix this, but they are so addicted to our tax dollars I don't see that happening.
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This is outrageous, the government going after in some cases the grandchildren to pay a past debt. Our government is out of control, both houses of congress and the white house.
And is very good reading so a find post...

it is. I had a news article about this very same thing yet didn't post it at the time you did., MrLiberty.

So I shall just add the headlines as an "other than story" as they some what differ in context. Yet are about the same thing.

I took this from the end of my article.Once again, we have a case of the government saying: "When you screw up, you pay. When we screw up, you also pay."



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US seizing tax refunds of children over parents' debt?!

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Friday, 11 Apr 2014 | 11:07 AM ET
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The government is now going through old records to see if it overpaid people on Social Security. If it thinks it did, it can now seize the IRS tax refund checks of the CHILDREN of those people it thinks it overpaid.

This isn't a proposal—it's already happening. For the past three years, the government has been confiscating hundreds of thousands of Americans' tax refunds, according to the Washington Post. It has already confiscated $1.9 billion in tax refunds this year alone.

The amazing thing is that the government is doing this even if it has little or no proof and no exact details. And the letters the government sends to unsuspecting taxpayers are frightening, use accusatory language, and include other financial threats.

"They gave me no notice, they can't prove that I received any overpayment, and they use intimidation tactics, threatening to report this to the credit bureaus," Mary Grice, who had her tax refunds seized a few weeks ago, is quoted as saying.


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As usual, no one in the government is willing to take the responsibility for this new policy—Social Security said it didn't do it, ask the Treasury Department. Treasury said—ask Congress.

The Dc two step..


If you think this is some kind of unprecedented outrage, you're right. But here's some advice: get used to it.

And this is why they are doing it... Pure & Simple.. And more proof of this very big mistake the Dem's thru their Progressive POTUS have impaled America's Taxpayers on, the ACA Law.

Tax refunds are clearly becoming the new promised land for government regulators and bureaucrats desperate for more revenues. We already know that confiscating tax refunds are the only real way the IRS will be able to impose Obamacare non-compliance penalties, and now it seems like the Social Security Administration is jumping on that bandwagon.

But there's a more powerful and disturbing message here. Remember that the people who benefited from these alleged Social Security payments have not committed any crime—that's why the government doesn't need to provide any proof or real documentation. It's more likely that the SSA simply screwed up and expects the descendants of its accidental beneficiaries to pay up. And again, the money comes out first before you can protest and find out why.

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I hope this shows the reality of our non transparent govt.
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probably if you inherited assets from the estate they can get the back taxes, otherwise you are in the clear.
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probably if you inherited assets from the estate they can get the back taxes, otherwise you are in the clear.
Even if that were the case, that's no reason to go after someone who didn't incur the debt; or in this case the federal government overpaying SS benefits to parents and grandparents. If someone in my family owes money to the government for whatever reason, it's not my responsibility to pay that for them nor should the government be allowed to penalize me for their debts.
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The law that prevented this expired in 2011, that is why the IRS can get away with it. It is up to congress to fix this, but they are so addicted to our tax dollars I don't see that happening.
Actually, the law that expired only allowed the IRS to go after debt up to 10 years. It does not allow the IRS to violate laws about inherited debt.
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probably if you inherited assets from the estate they can get the back taxes, otherwise you are in the clear.
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Even if that were the case, that's no reason to go after someone who didn't incur the debt; or in this case the federal government overpaying SS benefits to parents and grandparents. If someone in my family owes money to the government for whatever reason, it's not my responsibility to pay that for them nor should the government be allowed to penalize me for their debts.
To clarify on this, possibly the approach that SHOULD be used is to go after the estate?

After the estate is divided up (and in these cases, we're looking at decades later), it's rather heinous (IMO) to claim "backsies"


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Actually, the law that expired only allowed the IRS to go after debt up to 10 years. It does not allow the IRS to violate laws about inherited debt.
When the law expired they read it diferently than you, however it is moot right now as they have suspended their collections of long past due debts. From what I read they are looking at the legalities of it and may have to change the rules.
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When the law expired they read it diferently than you, however it is moot right now as they have suspended their collections of long past due debts. From what I read they are looking at the legalities of it and may have to change the rules.
It is patently illegal to go after the children's income in any way or form. The IRS screwed up massively.
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