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Old 10-01-2013, 11:50 AM
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"Non-essential services" shut down. Roll that phrase around in your head while other people to afford things like essential auto repairs, mortgage payments, roof repairs and tuition while having around half of their income confiscated to pay for that slop.
I guess that depends on if you are working this morning expecting a paycheck or not...
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You know, like these.

VBA Regional Offices public
contact services will not be
available
• No decisions on claims appeals
or motions will be issued by the
Board of Veterans Appeals
• Freedom of Information Act
queries will not be processed
• Privacy Act requests will not
be processed
• VA’s homepage (U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs)
will be updated intermittently
• VA’s main and hospital Social
Media Web sites will be updated
intermittently (Facebook, Twitter,
Blog, etc.)
• Recruiting and hiring of Veteran
job applicants will cease with the
exception of the Veterans Health
Administration
• Presidential Memorial certificates
will not be processed
• Interments at National
Cemeteries will be conducted
on a reduced schedule
• Overseas Military coordinator
operations will be suspended
• VA Secretary correspondence
with Veterans and VSOs
suspended
• Outreach and Public Awareness
Activities
• VetSuccess on Campus
suspended
• Vocational Rehabilitation and
Education Counseling will be
limited
• VBA will not be able to continue
overtime for claims processors
• Claims processing and payments
in the compensation, pension,
education, and vocational
rehabilitation programs are
anticipated to continue through
late October. However, in the
event of a prolonged shutdown,
claims processing and payments
in these programs would be
suspended when available
funding is exhausted
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I guess that depends on if you are working this morning expecting a paycheck or not...

I wonder how many of these people are salaried? Meaning this will equate to little more than paid time off.
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I guess that depends on if you are working this morning expecting a paycheck or not...


We're talking about Federal workers whose bosses have termed their contributions to Society "non-essential." So obviously the term "work" is highly fluid here.

But feel free' do, to spend your own money to hire some (more) idle
Federal worker to do something useless for you, while leaving those of us who disdain such practices alone, OK?
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I wonder how many of these people are salaried? Meaning this will equate to little more than paid time off.
In my experience, their careers as a whole constitute "paid time off."
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I wonder how many of these people are salaried? Meaning this will equate to little more than paid time off.
Ah, Lets all get together and judge folks.
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That doesn't tell the story. In fact with these tea party freaks it's only going to get worse. They will screw the country to get their way.
The thing that boggles my mind is that this shut-down will harm the economy...
... but they'll turn around and claim it was all because of Obama's policies.

They've been preparing that bait and switch for weeks. A variety of threads around here predicting economic doom and gloom.
Some of the articles EXPLICITLY acknowledging that the fear is from this budget show-down. Some refusing to explicitly acknowledge that...
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. . .. Do you know why they don't work to make the ACA better? Because of partisanship. That it. Nothing more.
Oh, don't be so silly, it becomes tiresome.

Most Republicans, in case it has escaped your notice, are ready to fracture their party in order to oppose this stinking power grab.

This is a clear case of ideology trumping partisanship.


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I wonder how many of these people are salaried? Meaning this will equate to little more than paid time off.
I don't know but when I worked for the VA we got paid every two weeks.
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Ok, make sure you point out when you think you do that so I have an example.
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