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We don't need it to be bad, it is bad.
Yet not as bad as you need it to be to unseat Obama huh... Isn't it a shame that your party would put political gain over the welfare of the economy...
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Here, go learn how it works, then maybe you'll understand that it's not incompetence or some conspiracy .... It's just Math....

News Release: Gross Domestic Product
Hey stick-for-brains, if this was a one-time issue, then I wouldn't care one bit, but it's been an issue for Pres. Obama's entire term of office. If I had a bunch of guys working for me that got this wrong every single time and got wrong the same way every single time, someone would be looking for a new job. Why aren't you pissed off that these numbers are being produced wrogn every time?? Why aren't you demanding an answer?? Do you not care that the people who are giving you this information have proven themselves to be incompetent?? Is the truth so meaningless to you that you'll accept being given wrong information over and over again and do NOTHING about it??
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Hey stick-for-brains, if this was a one-time issue, then I wouldn't care one bit, but it's been an issue for Pres. Obama's entire term of office. If I had a bunch of guys working for me that got this wrong every single time and got wrong the same way every single time, someone would be looking for a new job. Why aren't you pissed off that these numbers are being produced wrogn every time?? Why aren't you demanding an answer?? Do you not care that the people who are giving you this information have proven themselves to be incompetent?? Is the truth so meaningless to you that you'll accept being given wrong information over and over again and do NOTHING about it??
It's not an issue... that's the whole point. They release a projected outlook based on number they have at that moment in time. When the real numbers come in the total is a bit lower than predicted... I assume that means growth wasn't as strong as they had predicted...

It happened under previous administrations too, they use the same process... it's not an issue ...
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It's not an issue... that's the whole point. They release a projected outlook based on number they have at that moment in time. When the real numbers come in the total is a bit lower than predicted... I assume that means growth wasn't as strong as they had predicted...

It happened under previous administrations too, they use the same process... it's not an issue ...
When it's wrong the same way every single time the numbers are released, then someone needs to be asked why that is and what's going to be done to fix it. This ISN'T A ONE-TIME OCCURENCE as you try to make it sound, it's been the standard for the whole of Pres. Obama's term. Economic numbers get released to great media fanfare and then later they revised DOWNWARD (EVERY TIME) to near media silence. This is job performance that would unaccceptable in any environment - public or private - yet it continues unabated. Do you like being told wrong information??
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When it's wrong the same way every single time the numbers are released, then someone needs to be asked why that is and what's going to be done to fix it. This ISN'T A ONE-TIME OCCURENCE as you try to make it sound, it's been the standard for the whole of Pres. Obama's term. Economic numbers get released to great media fanfare and then later they revised DOWNWARD (EVERY TIME) to near media silence. This is job performance that would unaccceptable in any environment - public or private - yet it continues unabated. Do you like being told wrong information??
I'm not saying it is a one time occurrence. They release a estimated number based on what they have at that time. Later, as they get more information they revise their previous numbers. The fact that it consistently goes downward only says the economy is not as strong as they had projected. It's the same process they used in previous administrations and you don't hear about it from the Media because it's not an Issue .
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Yet not as bad as you need it to be to unseat Obama huh... Isn't it a shame that your party would put political gain over the welfare of the economy...
You are so right, if we had just slavishly enacted every proposal of the community organizer in the WH with no relevant private or public sector experience he would have led us oh so close to prosperity. Never mind that Obama is unable and unwilling to do a Federal budget, it is questionable that he can balance his personal checkbook.
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You are so right, if we had just slavishly enacted every proposal of the community organizer in the WH with no relevant private or public sector experience he would have led us oh so close to prosperity. Never mind that Obama is unable and unwilling to do a Federal budget, it is questionable that he can balance his personal checkbook.
You're almost there... Keep trying though because you still haven't figured it all out just yet.
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You're almost there... Keep trying though because you still haven't figured it all out just yet.
If by figure it out you mean accept the bizzare reality where Obama knows how to fix the economy, you will be waiting a very long time. You live among the tattered ruins of Obama's message of "hope" where his failed Presidency is blamed on someone else. That's why you increasingly resort to wisecracks to defend Obama.
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If by figure it out you mean accept the bizzare reality where Obama knows how to fix the economy, you will be waiting a very long time. You live among the tattered ruins of Obama's message of "hope" where his failed Presidency is blamed on someone else. That's why you increasingly resort to wisecracks to defend Obama.
I don't think so, I rather think of it as denying the delusional dreamworld where trickle down economic theory works, because we know from history it does not. It's funny how you use the buzz term " failed economy" like it means anything. I don't need to defend Obama, his record speaks for itself.
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I'm not saying it is a one time occurrence. They release a estimated number based on what they have at that time. Later, as they get more information they revise their previous numbers. The fact that it consistently goes downward only says the economy is not as strong as they had projected. It's the same process they used in previous administrations and you don't hear about it from the Media because it's not an Issue .
It's an EVERY TIME OCCURENCE. GOT IT!!! This isn't just someting happens occasionally, it's happened EVERY SINGLE TIME THE OA'S EXPERTS HAVE RELEASED THESE NUMBERS - WITH NO EXCEPTIONS. Stop trying to minimize this issue and start using your brain. When you screw up one of the key parts of your job every time for 3 1/2 years, then there's a problem with your job performance. When you're the boss and the people who work for you do this and you do nothing to correct it, then there's a problem with your leadership. It is an issue, because the OA is allowing inaccurate information to be spread and doing nothing to correct it until long after the information has made it's way into the minds fo the gulllible and unknowing (that's you, just in case you were wondering). When you get fed wrong information and the guy who should be handling the situation to get the right information (by firing the people who keep screwing up and getting competent people to take their place) isn't doing anything to correct it, then you better believe that there's an issue. It's an issue of competent leadership. Good leadership takes ownership of these kind of problems and gets them corrected. Poor leadership simply ignores them if they provide a benefit to them with no regard for those they lead.
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