is nissan an American car?

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**** if I know. I don't pay any attention to what's "american" and what isn't. I just looked up electric cars. I got a Nissan Leaf and a Ford Focus Electric (which is more expensive than the Leaf)

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well if the japanese can't make them w/o over charging then they really are spendy. wonder why

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No, the REAL question is what does one of these cost without the tax payer support? That's the real question here. They are hugely expensive with all of the tax discounts, purchasing with tax benefits and flat out government money to produce them included. With no tax payer money involved the little piece of sh*t cars would retail at around 100k or more.

Retail wise these things suck *ss and nobody would by one if they weren't subsidized. Total sales would be f*cking zero.

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This isn't one of them. Pull out the taxpayer funded subsidies and they're prced FAR too high to ever go into production.

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The Chevy Volt basd model is around $31,500 after rebate not including the charging station. Nicely equipped they run just under $40K.

The greedy rich supposedly inflating the price is the Federal government and the UAW. With full absorbtion costing the Volt sticker price would be over $200K making it a huge loss leader. Guess who gets to make up the loss, we taxpayers.

The typical Volt private buyer has an income of $170K and owns at least one other car. The Volt appeals to a niche market of the affluent to use as a symbol of eco virtue. In fact nearly half the electricity used to charge the Volt's batteries is generated by burning coal. So in effect the Volt is a coal fired, tax subsidized Obamamobile for the well off.

Oh and the rare earth minerals required for the Volt battery are imported from China. The eco nuts have shut down mining in the US.

Well I'm glad they shut down mining. Too polluting. Now we need to do something about genetically engineered seeds.
so are you telling me the volt costs 30 thousand or 200 thousand?
I would like to drive an electric car but I just don't understand how it takes so much to make one and how come nobody caught on to the Henry Ford idea of quantity and a low priced auto. Talking about the electric car. Sh*t what are they made of gold?

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You are glad we shut down rare earth mining so now we are dependent on the Chi Coms to manufacture electric cars. That is a good, how?

Recognizing all the Volt development and manufacturing costs as well as government subsidies, the car needs to have a retail price over $200K to break even. At $40K per Volt it is a loser. We can argue about the amount of the per unit loss but the GM CEO admitted the Volt is sold at a loss. But don't worry the OA has transferred the loss to the taxpayer, the precious UAW will not be impacted.

the mining isn't shut down, it's just taking place in another country which makes us entirely dependent on this other country for the cars that a certain group of people so desperately want. So instead of being dependent on another country for oil, we'll be dependent on them for the minerals necessary to build these cars. How is that a good thing?

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