Originally Posted by 40yearfan

Right. The Republicans all voted for this bill and not one single Democrat did. It's all the Republicans fault. Obama walks on water. Bidens halo is a burnt orange.

Originally Posted by Xcali

Difference being the Democrats aren't the ones going around the country telling spouting they are against spending. Democrats according to the right are expected to vote for spending. Republicans claim to be the " Fiscal Conservatives".. who just Looooooove to spend money.

This is about Congress not doing their jobs, And about Lyin Ryan and his hypocrisy.

Originally Posted by 40yearfan

C'mon xcali. This isn't a right or a left problem. Pointing fingers does nothing to help solve this problem. I agree with you that just kicking the can down the road is ridiculous, but at the present time (because of the election), it is the only option available and will help to keep this country from falling into a greater economic mess than it already is. I applaud both the Democrats and Republicans with enough sense to realize this and vote accordingly.

Originally Posted by 40yearfan

Originally Posted by Xcali

And I posted it not as a partisan issue, I realize that both sides are at fault. I just get tired of hearing it from the right that Republicans are so much better with the economy when history blows a hole in that . I was pointing out the hypocrisy of one Congressman .. Paul Ryan. He was picked because he is viewed as the Fiscal Hawk. Romney picked him to shore up the far right of the party because Paul Ryan is viewed as a Fiscal Hawk. I pointed him out to expose him for what he is, just another big spending politician.




I specifically remember saying this on several occasions concerning President Obama and his decision to spend 800 billion dollars on stimulus. The economy was in a free fall, the middle class was decimated, unemployment was bleeding, literally... We were losing 750 thousand jobs per month... if it wasn't time to spend some stimulus when was?..

Youngest guys on here and at other boards have not let me live that down. According to YOU and others there was never a reason to Spend more money. According to You and others when a Democrat did it it was the worst thing in the world and suddenly materialized into 5 trillion dollars in additional debt. Now that one of Your own is seen to be the Fiscal hypocrite it's... Oh it was needed to keep the government running and to keep the economy from getting worse.

There is no excuse... If Congress would do their jobs the economy would turn around. Both sides are guilty, I'm not saying they are not. But the fact that the Republicans planned from day one to obstruct this particular President pins them with the majority of the blame. Republicans don't get to claim that Obama's Policies haven't worked until they allow him to implement his policies. One Stimulus Bill and a few executive orders is not the bulk of his economic policies. In fact he Promised back in 2008 to cut the deficit in half in his first term. He proposed a budget that would have done just that. The Democrats in Congress didn't like it because it didn't have enough spending and the Republicans didn't like it because they weren't in charge so his budget went on a shelf. For 4 years we have run on continuing resolutions , and they just kicked the can down the road again. Maybe it's time to quit worrying who is sitting in the big chair and start taking out the little guys.

If I had my way half of congress would be tossed out, tried for treason, and locked in a cold dark cell.

Originally Posted by AZRWinger

A President at odds with Congress as Obama is, a President disdainful of working with Congress is a failed President as Obama is. The fact is Democrats did not vote for either of Obama's last 2 budget proposals. Obama's reaction is to turn his back on the Federal budget. Senate Democrats carry out the President's policy by refusing to consider House passed budgets while not even holding budget hearings. It is absurd to blame Paul Ryan for large continuing resolution spending when Obama and Senate Democrats abdication of their budget responsibilities is the cause of the problem.

Originally Posted by Xcali

Difference being the Democrats aren't the ones going around the country telling spouting they are against spending. Democrats according to the right are expected to vote for spending. Republicans claim to be the " Fiscal Conservatives".. who just Looooooove to spend money.
This is about Congress not doing their jobs, And about Lyin Ryan and his hypocrisy.

Originally Posted by Xcali

The House Republicans haven't passed a bipartisan budget. They pass their version of a budget and expect the Democrats to just go along with eliminating everything while raising Defense spending. Obama tried in the beginning to work with these fools but he isn't stupid and wasn't going to waste his time trying when they had all decided they WERE NOT GOING TO COOPERATE WITH HIM. The Democrats haven't put the budget up because of the Filibuster rule and Harry Reid is well aware it would be a waste of time because the Republicans have sword to block anything OBAMA.

Paul Ryan isn't alone in responsibility but he is the number one Hypocrite in Congress. The so called Fiscal Hawk turned out to be not so fiscal when it stood in the way of him advancing his status in Government. The Fact that he signed on with all the Bush spending should have told you right wingers he was playing political games.