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If more Americans made stuff again, and unions were strong again, we would be very competitive again.
Here we go again... The stupid just keeps flowing....


Could you please explain how driving up the cost of producing a product can make a business more competitive??? It was unions that drove the textile industry overseas by driving up costs to where the business owners figured out that they could build plants in Indonesia, India, Mexico, China, etc. and make shirts cheaper there than here. It was inevitable, but the unions GREATLY accelerated the process. Unions were one of the biggest contributors to gov't corruptions, especially when they became an arm of organized crime. We need to make more stuff, but to that we have to have costs that can compete with foreign business. Maybe your unios should head over to India or China and start organizing their workers. I'd love to see what woudl happen the first time a union rep. told 10,000 Indian workers that they were going to go on strike and explain to them that it meant that they weren't going to work. You'd see the Ganges suddenly have all these "Look for the union label" bumperstickers, pins and signs floating down it to the Indian Ocean and out to sea where manatees would frolic with them.
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Or....maybe it's the new Republicans in Congress who are unwilling to compromise with this particular president?
Or maybe that he's not able to compromise with the Reps.??? President's ALWAYS have to compromise, but for some reason, Pres. Obama gets a pass on this.
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Or maybe that he's not able to compromise with the Reps.??? President's ALWAYS have to compromise, but for some reason, Pres. Obama gets a pass on this.
No. I don't think so. And no, I don't think it's that he's getting a "pass". This particular Congress has made their position clear and upfront in that they will do anything to make sure Obama's presidency is a failure - making sure he doesn't get re-elected as been their stated position from the day Obama took office and that means making sure there is no successful piece of legislation bearing his name that he can take credit for.

They've been clear and frankly the evidence is clear. One of my main peeves with Obama is he has been TOO accommodating to the Republicans and they haven't budged an inch in compromise.
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Here we go again... The stupid just keeps flowing....


Could you please explain how driving up the cost of producing a product can make a business more competitive??? It was unions that drove the textile industry overseas by driving up costs to where the business owners figured out that they could build plants in Indonesia, India, Mexico, China, etc. and make shirts cheaper there than here. It was inevitable, but the unions GREATLY accelerated the process. Unions were one of the biggest contributors to gov't corruptions, especially when they became an arm of organized crime. We need to make more stuff, but to that we have to have costs that can compete with foreign business. Maybe your unios should head over to India or China and start organizing their workers. I'd love to see what woudl happen the first time a union rep. told 10,000 Indian workers that they were going to go on strike and explain to them that it meant that they weren't going to work. You'd see the Ganges suddenly have all these "Look for the union label" bumperstickers, pins and signs floating down it to the Indian Ocean and out to sea where manatees would frolic with them.
Nope t was deregulation and NAFTA.
When we had a strong bunch of unions all the wage floated to the top even non union as evidenced by the reduced wages we have seen since. Busting unions greatly hurt the middle class.
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Nope t was deregulation and NAFTA.
When we had a strong bunch of unions all the wage floated to the top even non union as evidenced by the reduced wages we have seen since. Busting unions greatly hurt the middle class.
So you're nto going to answer my question and instead divert teh discussion away from an uncomfortable question. Why do I even bother with you... Getting you to actually answer a question is like shoving a worm back into it's hole.
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No. I don't think so. And no, I don't think it's that he's getting a "pass". This particular Congress has made their position clear and upfront in that they will do anything to make sure Obama's presidency is a failure - making sure he doesn't get re-elected as been their stated position from the day Obama took office and that means making sure there is no successful piece of legislation bearing his name that he can take credit for.

They've been clear and frankly the evidence is clear. One of my main peeves with Obama is he has been TOO accommodating to the Republicans and they haven't budged an inch in compromise.
If Pres. Obama has been accomodating, then G.W. Bush was a Democrat. I'd say that there has been no cooperation from either side. I'll also throw in that good leaders FIND common ground and build on it. This is something that Pres. Obama has been an abysmal failure at.
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