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I am thinking that if by some small chance Romney becomes POTUS how will he be able to put his plans in place? I mean the left is in a position to do to him what the right has done to Obama. They can and will probably block any attempts to cut taxes even further. They will filabuster anything he wants to do to make sure his Presidency fails. They have created a new agenda for congress under Obama. The rabid opposition agenda. The left will no doubt do pay back.
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I think we've entered a period of rapid social evolution (actually, we entered it awhile back, during the civil rights era), and for the next few decades, rabid partisanship is a given.
On the bright side (for us, anyway), progress will win out over "tradition" in the end. It always does.
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I think we've entered a period of rapid social evolution (actually, we entered it awhile back, during the civil rights era), and for the next few decades, rabid partisanship is a given.
On the bright side (for us, anyway), progress will win out over "tradition" in the end. It always does.
Yeah but will the evolution come by way of revolution? Nah, we are too docile
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I am thinking that if by some small chance Romney becomes POTUS how will he be able to put his plans in place? I mean the left is in a position to do to him what the right has done to Obama. They can and will probably block any attempts to cut taxes even further. They will filabuster anything he wants to do to make sure his Presidency fails. They have created a new agenda for congress under Obama. The rabid opposition agenda. The left will no doubt do pay back.
That "Very Small" chance of Willard becoming President is what Democrats need to be worried about. It's doubtful the House will flip again considering the Democrats are facing redistricting which leaned heavily to the right this year. The Senate either way will be close enough to keep the Filibuster in play but the big question is whether or not the Democrats will actually use it. I'm of a mind to think they will not. They might use it to stop the destruction of Social Security and Medicare but anything short of total Destruction of those two might very well gain enough support to go through.

Grover Norquest stated in an interview that " We don't need a President, we just need someone to sign the bills as we pass them to him. " which only shows they don't really think Willard is qualified to run the country but he is qualified to act as an extreme right puppet.

Democrats are traditionally less brazen and will be less likely to Filibuster . If the Senate stays in control of the democrats they can stop anything by simply not allowing a vote on the floor, which is the prerogative of the Majority leader. However if the Senate Majority goes to the Republicans that will be most dangerous, because the Democrats will allow most of their bills to pass in order to use it against them later. They would much rather go into the 2016 elections being the party that didn't block everything , so it works in the Democrats favor to Allow some short term damage in order to gain long term support.

Thinking strictly on political agenda's that how I see it going down if Willard should be so fortunate to overcome the extreme odds against him winning. I personally don't believe we'll need to worry, although there is a chance. But the Democrats need to keep the Senate because we'll face the gauntlet of bad policy and destructive legislation if they don't.
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That "Very Small" chance of Willard becoming President is what Democrats need to be worried about. It's doubtful the House will flip again considering the Democrats are facing redistricting which leaned heavily to the right this year. The Senate either way will be close enough to keep the Filibuster in play but the big question is whether or not the Democrats will actually use it. I'm of a mind to think they will not. They might use it to stop the destruction of Social Security and Medicare but anything short of total Destruction of those two might very well gain enough support to go through.

Grover Norquest stated in an interview that " We don't need a President, we just need someone to sign the bills as we pass them to him. " which only shows they don't really think Willard is qualified to run the country but he is qualified to act as an extreme right puppet.

Democrats are traditionally less brazen and will be less likely to Filibuster . If the Senate stays in control of the democrats they can stop anything by simply not allowing a vote on the floor, which is the prerogative of the Majority leader. However if the Senate Majority goes to the Republicans that will be most dangerous, because the Democrats will allow most of their bills to pass in order to use it against them later. They would much rather go into the 2016 elections being the party that didn't block everything , so it works in the Democrats favor to Allow some short term damage in order to gain long term support.

Thinking strictly on political agenda's that how I see it going down if Willard should be so fortunate to overcome the extreme odds against him winning. I personally don't believe we'll need to worry, although there is a chance. But the Democrats need to keep the Senate because we'll face the gauntlet of bad policy and destructive legislation if they don't.
I am thinking we have seen a increasing tit for tat in congress. I think some of the refusal to work with Obama is the anger from the right of how they percieve the left treated Bush, fair or not. Depending on how more rancorous the campaign gets I am not sure there won't be stubborness increased.
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Yeah but will the evolution come by way of revolution? Nah, we are too docile
No, absolutely not.
It will come by way of partisan bitchery.
Look how far we've come as a society since the beginning of the 1960s.
I estimate we still have that much further yet to go.
By- let's say- 2050, America will be a very different place. But a better one, I'm sure.
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No, absolutely not.
It will come by way of partisan bitchery.
Look how far we've come as a society since the beginning of the 1960s.
I estimate we still have that much further yet to go.
By- let's say- 2050, America will be a very different place. But a better one, I'm sure.
Funny because I was looking at how the right used to be for so many things in the 60's and early 70's that would get them run out on a rail todat by the Norquist and tea party crowd.
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I expect Romney to win much more easliy than most folks think and also predict that the pubs will win the Senate.....


That will complete the latest political shift that started in 2010......

Deja vu........2006 all over again.


The Romney administratiuon and political power will mirror what W had his first four years in the WH......
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I expect Romney to win much more easliy than most folks think and also predict that the pubs will win the Senate.....


That will complete the latest political shift that started in 2010......

Deja vu........2006 all over again.


The Romney administratiuon and political power will mirror what W had his first four years in the WH......
Then you have nothing on the premise?
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Then you have nothing on the premise?
You said you think the dems will block him and shut stuff down. I don't think the dems will have the majority when it's all said and done in 2013.

If that happens, Mitt will be able to operate free and clear for a few years politically like W did during his first term......


That said, there will always be some partisan bickering, that's a given.....
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