Political Wrinkles  

Go Back   Political Wrinkles > Political Forums > Economics
Register FAQDonate PW Store PW Trivia Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Economics Discuss Frugal Living: Attitude of gratitude at the Political Forums; One of the issues that many people have with frugal living is the idea of denying yourself. If all you ...

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-26-2011, 06:04 AM
saltwn's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: in the natural state
Posts: 41,357
Thanks: 30,783
Thanked 17,025 Times in 11,554 Posts
Send a message via Yahoo to saltwn
Default Frugal Living: Attitude of gratitude

One of the issues that many people have with frugal living is the idea of denying yourself.

Quote:
If all you focus on is the sacrifice efforts, and if all you think about is what you’re not getting, you will be miserable and frugality will seem like a chore. One of the keys to frugal living is cultivating an attitude of gratitude.
Quote:
Of course, gratitude is not something that develops spontaneously. If you have spent a great deal of time being resentful about your financial situation, then it can be even more difficult to cultivate gratitude. However, if you keep at it, it is possible for you to develop a thankfulness that can add joy to your life, and make frugality a blessing — not a burden.
Frugal Living: Attitude of Gratitude
Here are some things you can do to help you cultivate the quality of gratitude:

Keep a list of things you are thankful for: One of the easiest ways to begin recognizing what you already have is to make a list. Think of things you are grateful for, and make a list. Include things like your health, the picture your child drew for you, your favorite chair, your morning cup of coffee. Turn the list into a journal. Add two or three things to the list each day. Peruse it often to remind yourself of all the things that you have.


Avoid dwelling on those who appear to have more: Try to avoid comparing your car to someone else’s new car. This goes for other material possessions. Try to focus more on improving yourself in non-material ways, and try to stop comparing what you have to what others have. This can be difficult in a society that equates money with status and “worth.” But you can work at it, and learn to value a simpler life.


Realize that you are more fortunate than others: Recognize that, compared to many others, you are fortunate. Most of the rest of the world gets by on less than $5 a day. Even in your own community there are probably people less fortunate. Don’t let that puff you up, though. Donate to the less fortunate, and volunteer your time, and you’ll begin to feel more grateful for what you have.


Catch the direction of your thoughts: As you go through the above exercises, pay attention when your thoughts start to wander down the paths of envy and dissatisfaction. When you catch yourself thinking negatively, consciously make an effort to find something positive to think about.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to saltwn For This Useful Post:
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-26-2011, 09:42 AM
GottaGo's Avatar
Sanity is overrated.
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Today Amuses
Posts: 8,061
Thanks: 5,844
Thanked 4,831 Times in 3,182 Posts
Default Re: Frugal Living: Attitude of gratitude

Quote:
Originally Posted by saltwn View Post
One of the issues that many people have with frugal living is the idea of denying yourself.

Frugal Living: Attitude of Gratitude
Here are some things you can do to help you cultivate the quality of gratitude:

Keep a list of things you are thankful for: One of the easiest ways to begin recognizing what you already have is to make a list. Think of things you are grateful for, and make a list. Include things like your health, the picture your child drew for you, your favorite chair, your morning cup of coffee. Turn the list into a journal. Add two or three things to the list each day. Peruse it often to remind yourself of all the things that you have.

Avoid dwelling on those who appear to have more: Try to avoid comparing your car to someone else’s new car. This goes for other material possessions. Try to focus more on improving yourself in non-material ways, and try to stop comparing what you have to what others have. This can be difficult in a society that equates money with status and “worth.” But you can work at it, and learn to value a simpler life.

Realize that you are more fortunate than others: Recognize that, compared to many others, you are fortunate. Most of the rest of the world gets by on less than $5 a day. Even in your own community there are probably people less fortunate. Don’t let that puff you up, though. Donate to the less fortunate, and volunteer your time, and you’ll begin to feel more grateful for what you have.

Catch the direction of your thoughts: As you go through the above exercises, pay attention when your thoughts start to wander down the paths of envy and dissatisfaction. When you catch yourself thinking negatively, consciously make an effort to find something positive to think about.
I would never use the word 'gratitude' for a mindset that is satisfied with what they have because they earned it. Gratitude is for someone who doesn't believe they earned it, but got it anyway. It's not a bad state of mind for those that it applies to, but I feel it's an incorrectly used word in this case.
__________________
"Try and fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured, but not everyone must prove they are a citizen".
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to GottaGo For This Useful Post:
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-26-2011, 11:19 AM
cnredd's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Philadelphia
Gender: Male
Posts: 39,839
Thanks: 1,150
Thanked 19,477 Times in 12,310 Posts
Default Re: Frugal Living: Attitude of gratitude

Quote:
Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
I would never use the word 'gratitude' for a mindset that is satisfied with what they have because they earned it. Gratitude is for someone who doesn't believe they earned it, but got it anyway. It's not a bad state of mind for those that it applies to, but I feel it's an incorrectly used word in this case.
There's also the issue of "Pride" in what you have depending on how you got it...

A high school kid working 2 years at McDonald's to buy a used car will love that car MUCH more than the kid who gets one from his rich sugardaddy for his birthday...
__________________
"You get the respect that you give" - cnredd
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to cnredd For This Useful Post:
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-26-2011, 11:55 AM
rivrrat's Avatar
Queen of Awesomeness
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Charlottesville
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,071
Thanks: 2,861
Thanked 8,893 Times in 5,038 Posts
Default Re: Frugal Living: Attitude of gratitude

Quote:
Originally Posted by cnredd View Post
There's also the issue of "Pride" in what you have depending on how you got it...

A high school kid working 2 years at McDonald's to buy a used car will love that car MUCH more than the kid who gets one from his rich sugardaddy for his birthday...
And take much better care of it.
__________________


To tax the larger incomes at a higher percentage than the smaller, is to lay a tax on industry and economy; to impose a penalty on people for having worked harder and saved more than their neighbors. ~ John Stuart Mill

Gypsy Soul Memories
Scuba Diver Life
Success Freaks
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to rivrrat For This Useful Post:
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-26-2011, 11:56 AM
rivrrat's Avatar
Queen of Awesomeness
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Charlottesville
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,071
Thanks: 2,861
Thanked 8,893 Times in 5,038 Posts
Default Re: Frugal Living: Attitude of gratitude

Quote:
Originally Posted by saltwn View Post
One of the issues that many people have with frugal living is the idea of denying yourself.


Frugal Living: Attitude of Gratitude
Here are some things you can do to help you cultivate the quality of gratitude:

Keep a list of things you are thankful for: One of the easiest ways to begin recognizing what you already have is to make a list. Think of things you are grateful for, and make a list. Include things like your health, the picture your child drew for you, your favorite chair, your morning cup of coffee. Turn the list into a journal. Add two or three things to the list each day. Peruse it often to remind yourself of all the things that you have.


Avoid dwelling on those who appear to have more: Try to avoid comparing your car to someone else’s new car. This goes for other material possessions. Try to focus more on improving yourself in non-material ways, and try to stop comparing what you have to what others have. This can be difficult in a society that equates money with status and “worth.” But you can work at it, and learn to value a simpler life.


Realize that you are more fortunate than others: Recognize that, compared to many others, you are fortunate. Most of the rest of the world gets by on less than $5 a day. Even in your own community there are probably people less fortunate. Don’t let that puff you up, though. Donate to the less fortunate, and volunteer your time, and you’ll begin to feel more grateful for what you have.


Catch the direction of your thoughts: As you go through the above exercises, pay attention when your thoughts start to wander down the paths of envy and dissatisfaction. When you catch yourself thinking negatively, consciously make an effort to find something positive to think about.
That sounds incredibly like controlling and changing how you feel. And I've been told that's impossible.

That said, I can't take my money with me so I'm spending it while I can enjoy it.
__________________


To tax the larger incomes at a higher percentage than the smaller, is to lay a tax on industry and economy; to impose a penalty on people for having worked harder and saved more than their neighbors. ~ John Stuart Mill

Gypsy Soul Memories
Scuba Diver Life
Success Freaks
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 08-26-2011, 12:02 PM
cnredd's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Philadelphia
Gender: Male
Posts: 39,839
Thanks: 1,150
Thanked 19,477 Times in 12,310 Posts
Default Re: Frugal Living: Attitude of gratitude

Quote:
Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
And take much better care of it.
Absotootly!...
__________________
"You get the respect that you give" - cnredd
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 08-26-2011, 01:10 PM
Coyote's Avatar
Conspiracy Theory
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 14,209
Thanks: 11,272
Thanked 8,086 Times in 5,185 Posts
Default Re: Frugal Living: Attitude of gratitude

Quote:
Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
I would never use the word 'gratitude' for a mindset that is satisfied with what they have because they earned it. Gratitude is for someone who doesn't believe they earned it, but got it anyway. It's not a bad state of mind for those that it applies to, but I feel it's an incorrectly used word in this case.
I disagree strongly.

Gratitude is thankfulness for good fortune and is independent of whether or not you "earned it".

I am grateful that mother is still healthy. I am grateful that my dogs are healthy. I am grateful that my car still runs despite 280,000 miles on it. I am grateful that - even when I can't afford fuel oil I have firewood and a roof over my head. Others are not so fortunate. There but for fortune go you or I....

"Earned it" is the icing on the cake because everything could taken away in an instant through adversity - a tornado, a diagnosis of cancer, a car accident, a child in trouble, a job loss....
__________________

DISCLAIMER: Extreme amounts of sarcasm can possibly result in inflammatory situations. Not responsible for keyboard violence, spittle on the monitor, irrational responses mistaken for momentary brilliance, one-sided rages against hypocrisy or individual members or unintended consequences such as poor personal hygiene and bad spelling. Please fasten your seatbelts and put your trays in an upright position.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Coyote For This Useful Post:
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 08-26-2011, 01:52 PM
GottaGo's Avatar
Sanity is overrated.
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Today Amuses
Posts: 8,061
Thanks: 5,844
Thanked 4,831 Times in 3,182 Posts
Default Re: Frugal Living: Attitude of gratitude

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
I disagree strongly.

Gratitude is thankfulness for good fortune and is independent of whether or not you "earned it".

I am grateful that mother is still healthy. I am grateful that my dogs are healthy. I am grateful that my car still runs despite 280,000 miles on it. I am grateful that - even when I can't afford fuel oil I have firewood and a roof over my head. Others are not so fortunate. There but for fortune go you or I....

"Earned it" is the icing on the cake because everything could taken away in an instant through adversity - a tornado, a diagnosis of cancer, a car accident, a child in trouble, a job loss....
Fortune only plays a part, and most often you make your fortune. Choices, and taking responsibilty for those choices.

True, even with the best planning and best choices, things can and do still go wrong. For good fortune or bad, I have no one to blame but myself.

Because I planned, I did not loose everything I owned when I was dead broke and eating Cream of Chicken soup everynight. Because I planned, I will have something to retire with, even though SS won't be there when the time comes.

There is no one/no thing to be 'grateful' for but me.

I share the fruits of my labor with those that truly need it because I choose too, not for someone to be grateful to me.
__________________
"Try and fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured, but not everyone must prove they are a citizen".
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 08-26-2011, 02:03 PM
Coyote's Avatar
Conspiracy Theory
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 14,209
Thanks: 11,272
Thanked 8,086 Times in 5,185 Posts
Default Re: Frugal Living: Attitude of gratitude

Quote:
Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
Fortune only plays a part, and most often you make your fortune. Choices, and taking responsibilty for those choices.

True, even with the best planning and best choices, things can and do still go wrong. For good fortune or bad, I have no one to blame but myself.

Because I planned, I did not loose everything I owned when I was dead broke and eating Cream of Chicken soup everynight. Because I planned, I will have something to retire with, even though SS won't be there when the time comes.

There is no one/no thing to be 'grateful' for but me.

I share the fruits of my labor with those that truly need it because I choose too, not for someone to be grateful to me.
I think you and I have completely different definitions of "gratitude" and I don't understand what "blame" has to do with it at all.

Nor do I understand why you need to state: I share the fruits of my labor with those that truly need it because I choose too, not for someone to be grateful to me

What does "having someone to be grateful to me" have to do with being grateful?

I'm fortunate - I'm fortunate and grateful that despite adverse circumstances, I've managed ok. I'm grateful that the consequences my bad choices weren't worse (they could well have been). Yes, planning and hard work play a factor but I don't understand what is wrong with being grateful - one does not exclude the other.
__________________

DISCLAIMER: Extreme amounts of sarcasm can possibly result in inflammatory situations. Not responsible for keyboard violence, spittle on the monitor, irrational responses mistaken for momentary brilliance, one-sided rages against hypocrisy or individual members or unintended consequences such as poor personal hygiene and bad spelling. Please fasten your seatbelts and put your trays in an upright position.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Coyote For This Useful Post:
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 08-26-2011, 03:08 PM
GottaGo's Avatar
Sanity is overrated.
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Today Amuses
Posts: 8,061
Thanks: 5,844
Thanked 4,831 Times in 3,182 Posts
Default Re: Frugal Living: Attitude of gratitude

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
I think you and I have completely different definitions of "gratitude" and I don't understand what "blame" has to do with it at all.

Nor do I understand why you need to state: I share the fruits of my labor with those that truly need it because I choose too, not for someone to be grateful to me

What does "having someone to be grateful to me" have to do with being grateful?
I responded to this:
Quote:
Others are not so fortunate. There but for fortune go you or I....

Quote:
I'm fortunate - I'm fortunate and grateful that despite adverse circumstances, I've managed ok. I'm grateful that the consequences my bad choices weren't worse (they could well have been). Yes, planning and hard work play a factor but I don't understand what is wrong with being grateful - one does not exclude the other.
But who are you grateful to? If you are the one who got you through the hard times, then it was your own hard work and perseverence that got you there.
__________________
"Try and fathom the hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured, but not everyone must prove they are a citizen".
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to GottaGo For This Useful Post:
Reply

Tags
attitude, frugal, gratitude, living

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0