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Old 01-28-2022, 12:09 AM
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The nomination of a SCOTUS Justice is an act and constitutional duty of the office of President and the only consideration is the preservation, protection and defense of the Constitution (as the oath of office of President confirms as his primary duty) . . . that transcends politics or whatever political graft he thinks he owes "his constituents" . . .
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
It is expected that lefties have no respect for oaths and unchangeable and inviolate principles but it is important. If it was of no consequence there would have been no need for Obunghole to take the oath a second time when Chief Justice Roberts screwed it up the first time . . .

So note, it's not an oath to ensure minority groups "see someone that looks like them" on the Court, or to pander to powerful interests in the President's party and especially not to infuse the Court with anti-constitutional leftist radicalism.

It's disingenuous of you to posit this choice "probably won't change the court"; it may not in the short term but the primary motivator of the nomination of a Black female nominee with social justice bona-fides, is clearly done with an expectation for future transformation of the Court.

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The climate has changed because the GOP weaponized the court, so what do you want Liberals to do? Lay down and go to sleep? That ain't gonna happen.
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That's rich! Do you remember the political delay of a nomination? haha no of course not
And the subsequent performance of that individual as Attorney General, proves how correct the path taken actually was . . .

Garland was not SCOTUS worthy, neither was Harriet Miers or Robert Bork.
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Old 01-28-2022, 12:26 AM
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And the subsequent performance of that individual as Attorney General, proves how correct the path taken actually was . . .

Garland was not SCOTUS worthy, neither was Harriet Miers or Robert Bork.
says the person in favor of political nominations as long as they agree with his policy views.

was amey comey fit?
no everyone just said oh she's a mom; she won't be horrible. Ha!
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The fact that it is true is what is sad, my friend.
You know nothing of Thomas but what leftist talking heads tell you.

While I am sure you have no interest in original sources, you would much rather watch a 1 hour Youtube video from some obscure leftist telling you what to think, rather than learning something and deciding yourself what to think . . . I would recommend you read Thomas' concurrence in McDonald v Chicago and tell me what is wrong with that approach. I'm warning you, reading it will make you question the entire raft of BS you currently believe about rights recognition and protection.

A re-invigoration of the 14th Amendment's "privileges or immunities" clause will render the hokey-pokey "penumbral rights" theory unnecessary. That's why progressive groups were supporting that gun rights case. While I don't believe you really want to learn, you should at least familiarize yourself with different opinions.

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The climate has changed because the GOP weaponized the court,
I don't consider the enforcement of the Constitution to be "weaponization" of the Court and if you do, because of the effect of the Court on your political agenda then you have a problem . . . Which I guess y'all recognize because of the leftist push to expand the Court.

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so what do you want Liberals to do? Lay down and go to sleep? That ain't gonna happen.
Try confining the actions of your people to only that which the Constitution authorizes.

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says the person in favor of political nominations as long as they agree with his policy views.
Well, for the federal courts if nominees align with my constitutional and statutory interpretation philosophy they get my support; they don't need to be my political clones.

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was amey comey fit?
Yes and she has shown she's not an ideologue. Her decisions on the lower court and SCOTUS have not been rubber stamps of Republican / Trump / right wing politics. That goes for Kavanaugh too. Just DDG "Barrett disappoints" or "Kavanaugh disappoints".

Give me a link of Sotamayor or Kagan or Breyer or Stevens disappointing liberals, voting outside the Democrat / liberal dogma positions.

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no everyone just said oh she's a mom; she won't be horrible. Ha!
Everyone? Do you get I actually pay attention to this stuff; that I just laugh at your low-information crap? You should broaden your sources beyond "Occupy Democrats" and "The View" for instilling your political opinions.

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Old 01-28-2022, 05:16 AM
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You know nothing of Thomas but what leftist talking heads tell you.

While I am sure you have no interest in original sources, you would much rather watch a 1 hour Youtube video from some obscure leftist telling you what to think, rather than learning something and deciding yourself what to think . . . I would recommend you read Thomas' concurrence in McDonald v Chicago and tell me what is wrong with that approach. I'm warning you, reading it will make you question the entire raft of BS you currently believe about rights recognition and protection.

A re-invigoration of the 14th Amendment's "privileges or immunities" clause will render the hokey-pokey "penumbral rights" theory unnecessary. That's why progressive groups were supporting that gun rights case. While I don't believe you really want to learn, you should at least familiarize yourself with different opinions.

Just in case you want to surprise me:


Gun rights lawyer gives hope to liberal causes


Beyond the Second Amendment: Can Gun Enthusiasts Help Progressives Secure Fundamental Rights?


Liberals Use Supreme Court Gun Case to Bolster Other Rights


McDonald and the Text and History of the Fourteenth Amendment


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You want to argue political views of how the law should be interpreted. The right to appoint to the court is clear. It's a Democrat administration. A liberal judge retires. Not much change on the court. Thomas voted the way his hero voted. His hero's dead. Thomas should not be on any court after the years of suffering he put Anita hill through.
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I don't consider the enforcement of the Constitution to be "weaponization" of the Court and if you do, because of the effect of the Court on your political agenda then you have a problem . . . Which I guess y'all recognize because of the leftist push to expand the Court.



Try confining the actions of your people to only that which the Constitution authorizes.



Uhhhhh, what?



Well, for the federal courts if nominees align with my constitutional and statutory interpretation philosophy they get my support; they don't need to be my political clones.



Yes and she has shown she's not an ideologue. Her decisions on the lower court and SCOTUS have not been rubber stamps of Republican / Trump / right wing politics. That goes for Kavanaugh too. Just DDG "Barrett disappoints" or "Kavanaugh disappoints".

Give me a link of Sotamayor or Kagan or Breyer or Stevens disappointing liberals, voting outside the Democrat / liberal dogma positions.



Everyone? Do you get I actually pay attention to this stuff; that I just laugh at your low-information crap? You should broaden your sources beyond "Occupy Democrats" and "The View" for instilling your political opinions.

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The fact you insult me with the view like people who used to insult women with Oprah, is all I need to know about a presumptive privilege you bring to the argument. just look at the words you use "my interpretation" of the constitution. well yes, I have an interpretation too and it isn't informed by social or cable media thankyouverymuch.
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I don't know why the subject of scotus replacement deserves discussion since it probably won't change the court. other than that some seem to be afraid of a black person serving. But in answer to your question, he's fulfilling a promise to his constituents.
Yes, I realize that he is "fulfilling a promise"--one that should never have been made, since it automatically excludes a large portion of the population.

And no, I am certainly "not afraid" of a black person's being on the High Court. (In fact, I greatly admire Associate Justice Clarence Thomas.)

But to promise that the next appointment will be, specifically, a black woman, seems to me no less bigoted than the statement that the president will appoint only a white man.

Can you really see any difference here?
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That's rich! Do you remember the political delay of a nomination? haha no of course not
What does this have to do with the "delay" of a nomination, anyway?

The poster is talking about the legitimate function of the judicial branch of government--which is not similar to the legislative branch's legitimate function.
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The climate has changed because the GOP weaponized the court...
So, you are claiming that the GOP "weaponized" the High Court?

How, exactly?

By nominating (and subsequently confirming) judges--soon-to-be justices--to the bench, who believe in originalism and textualism, rather than acting as legislators?

Please elaborate...
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