Originally Posted by FrancSevin

Roberts was a Bush 43 appointee. 'nuff said.

Originally Posted by saltwn

Let's hope he was as good at picking Justices as he was in keeping the country from a depression.

Originally Posted by mr wonder

I told my conservative buds when we was appointed that the only issues Roberts is "conservative" on are "law and order" issues.
That is, he'll rule for the STATE/COPS in doing whatever they claim they need to do.
Spy, Detain, Break into, Withhold, etc etc.. basically "the STATE" in the form of cops and prosecutors are given the benny of the doubt OVER the citizens.

Which IMHO is NOT what we need at this point, and Not a constitutional POV.

But everyone assured me that Roberts was great.
I never bought it.
He's dangerous and will likely be there a long time.

Originally Posted by jamesrage

The one thing that pisses me off about republican appointed judges is that you don't know how they are going to rule. But democrat appointed judges we know how they are going to rule. For example I know how all of Obama's supreme court appointees will rule in regard to the 2nd amendment, abortion, illegal immigration and various other issues. And its the same thing if Biden or any other future democrat nominates a judge to the supreme court. Apparently republicans don't like doing their homework in regard to the judges that are appointed or they are lying about what they do or don't support and that is why they voted to confirm these left wing judges that democrats pick.




I don't know if I trust those guys as well.

Originally Posted by FrancSevin

You don't trust guys who uphold the constitution? Based purely on politics? Interesting.

Are you suggesting we need Judges who will not uphold the constitutional compact which guarantees the fundamental laws of our nation, created at it founding, will be maintained?

Originally Posted by jamesrage

I am saying I don't trust that they'll actually uphold the constitution. How many times have we been burned by republican appointed judges? Every other judge a republican appoints turns out to be a dirty rino.



The reality is that judges make rulings based on their own ideology. Some of the judge their ideology might be strict word for word of what the constitution and bill of rights say and the authors of those intended.

Originally Posted by GetAClue

I agree with you and will cite Chief Justice John Roberts as a classic example. While the duty of a justice nominated and seated on the highest court in the land should base their decisions on the Constitution, I believe that Roberts worries more about other factors such as his legacy as Chief Justice and how the court is perceived by the media.

His actions that effectively rewrote the Obamacare bill proved to me that he is not to be trusted. While I believe that he thought he was doing a service to the Congress that passed the bill, what he did was remove himself from the Judicial branch and made the court an extension of the Legislative branch.

Originally Posted by FrancSevin

I agree about Roberts but Jamesrage is lumping ALL GOP aligned judges into that category of not being what they claimed when nominated. Which is basing veracity purely on politics. He dislikes Republicans so,,,,they are all bad.

I Would suggest that logic not only has little evidence to support it but is very, very wrong.

Originally Posted by jamesrage

Not true.I mostly vote for republicans unless they are RINOs like Mitt Romney, John McCain, John Kasich and etc. I hope Trump's nominations are who they say they are.

Originally Posted by FrancSevin

I agree about Roberts but Jamesrage is lumping ALL GOP aligned judges into that category of not being what they claimed when nominated. Which is basing veracity purely on politics. He dislikes Republicans so,,,,they are all bad.

I Would suggest that logic not only has little evidence to support it but is very, very wrong.