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I have previously noted that the placement of John Roberts with the conservative bloc on the SCOTUS seems like a real stretch--he most often votes with the liberals, I believe--and he did that once again, in the attempt to overturn Texas' new abortion law.

He voted with the minority--surprise, surprise!--in the 5-4 decision that effectively upholds the Texas law.
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I have previously noted that the placement of John Roberts with the conservative bloc on the SCOTUS seems like a real stretch--he most often votes with the liberals, I believe--and he did that once again, in the attempt to overturn Texas' new abortion law.

He voted with the minority--surprise, surprise!--in the 5-4 decision that effectively upholds the Texas law.
Upholding 50-year-old Supreme Court precedent is conservative.
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Upholding 50-year-old Supreme Court precedent is conservative.
Hardly.

One could say the same lie about Jim Crow laws and segregation. Pu-leeze don't try to convince anyone those were conservative.

Conservatives go back to the founding for definitions of what the law of the land is supposed to be. The purpose of the SCOTUS is to secure that.

John Roberts, who decided to be legal, Obamacare had to be a tax. So he ruled that via an edict, changing the law and circumventing the Legislature. He is demonstrably and obviously of the other camp.
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Hardly.

One could say the same lie about Jim Crow laws and segregation. Pu-leeze don't try to convince anyone those were conservative.

Conservatives go back to the founding for definitions of what the law of the land is supposed to be. The purpose of the SCOTUS is to secure that.

John Roberts, who decided to be legal, Obamacare had to be a tax. So he ruled that via an edict, changing the law and circumventing the Legislature. He is demonstrably and obviously of the other camp.
Are you trying to compare an unconstitutional law barring free men from the vote and freedom of movement with
the law that says the government may not interfere with you and your doctor? You really wanna go there?
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Upholding 50-year-old Supreme Court precedent is conservative.
Fixing an error is neither Conservative nor Liberal irrelevant of its age...
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Fixing an error is neither Conservative nor Liberal irrelevant of its age...
Just admit that the right-wing wailing against “activist” judges is really just a complaint about judges who do things with which you disagree.
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Correct....

It was "Liberal" to change R vs. W.....
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Fixing an error is neither Conservative nor Liberal irrelevant of its age...
Having the right to choose the size of your own family while the sperm donor walks away was never an error....


Even former First Lady's Nancy Reagan and Laura Bush could agree on that women's issue...
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Are you trying to compare an unconstitutional law barring free men from the vote and freedom of movement with
the law that says the government may not interfere with you and your doctor? You really wanna go there?
Slavery depended on classifying the slave as sub-human. Abortionist use the same perverted logic to routinely slaughter the unborn child. Democrats bought into the big lie supporting both evil institutions.

The government has a limited but legitimate interest in protecting the welfare of children including the unborn. Having an MD doesn’t give an abortionist the authority to liquidate the unborn any more than they have the right to administer a lethal shot of morphine to an unruly 4 year old.
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Slavery depended on classifying the slave as sub-human. Abortionist use the same perverted logic to routinely slaughter the unborn child. Democrats bought into the big lie supporting both evil institutions.

The government has a limited but legitimate interest in protecting the welfare of children including the unborn. Having an MD doesn’t give an abortionist the authority to liquidate the unborn any more than they have the right to administer a lethal shot of morphine to an unruly 4 year old.
actually this interpretation throws the whole subject back to square one.
In Texas, a doctor could not perform an abortion for any reason including health of mother and death of fetus.
I didn't agree with "abortion clinics" opening to take advantage of this privacy law, however, it did fix that problem. It seems politicians want it all one way or all the other way, neither of which is good for humans.
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