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Old 10-14-2020, 01:07 PM
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Having a president who says batshlt insane things to "own the libs" is really no better than having a president who says batshlt insane things because he believes them.
So am I right in saying that it is Trumps words that have made your life a "living hell" for the past 4 years? you have never told us what, if anything, Trump actually DID to make your life so terrible.
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Every time the Left freaks out over a tweet, I can just imagine Trump standing next to an aide saying "Wanna see the Left freak out over a tweet?" and then hitting "submit"...

As I said before, Trump is the guy pointing the laser pointer at a wall and making circles with the red dot, and the Left is the cat furiously attacking the dot...
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Getting rid of the electoral college would be a simple matter especially for a SCOTUS bloated with radical Leftist politicians.
The SCOTUS is no longer controlled by radical leftists. President Trump has made three nominations (all approved by the Senate) within his term; and the last of these was the replacement of a Living Document theorist with an originalist and textualist.

And since the Electoral College is enshrined in the Constitution, even a liberal Supreme Court--which we no longer have, anyway--could not simply wish it away.
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The SCOTUS is no longer controlled by radical leftists. President Trump has made three nominations (all approved by the Senate) within his term; and the last of these was the replacement of a Living Document theorist with an originalist and textualist.

And since the Electoral College is enshrined in the Constitution, even a liberal Supreme Court--which we no longer have, anyway--could not simply wish it away.
and it works.
All we need to get rid of is gerrymandering; appoint or elect a board made up of different parties to draw districts.
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All we need to get rid of is gerrymandering...
Yes, there is, indeed, some gerrymandering.

But let us not pretend that it is purely (or even principally) a Republican misdemeanor.

Democrats are guilty of this, too.

And probably just as often.
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Yes, there is, indeed, some gerrymandering.

But let us not pretend that it is purely (or even principally) a Republican misdemeanor.

Democrats are guilty of this, too.

And probably just as often.
What d' I say?
form a commission. bipartisan
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What about the old norm of not spying on U.S. citizens.
The norm of 2 legally recognized genders.
The norm of 1 male and 1 female marriages.
The norm of getting on an airplane without BS scans and pat downs.
The norm of not being banned on the internet for your speech.
The norm of assuming free speech on college campuses is a good thing.
The norm of medical choice in treatment.
The norm of not killing babies 15 minutes after birth and before.
The norm of not attacking foreign countries if they have not attacked us.
The norm of not drone striking people willy-nilly around the world.
The norm of giving people trials and due process instead of "indefinite detention".
The long lost norm of believing and acting on the idea that the constitution is the highest law of the land.
The norm of most American's to understanding that America is... and can only be great... if it's ACTS like it's a nation "under God".

But that's all just crazy talk i guess.
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and it works.
All we need to get rid of is gerrymandering; appoint or elect a board made up of different parties to draw districts.
You aren't against Gerrymandering, you are just against Republicans being in charge of doing it.

Perhaps millions of Biden "voters" should have been told to also vote downticket and give Biden more Dem's in Congress and more important, flip Dem's in statehouses who will decide their state's Congressional districts from the 2020 census.

No, instead those brilliant Democrats cemented Democrats getting slaughtered in the future.

The most convincing outcome of the election that proves cheating is that Biden had so many lonely votes. It either says those Democrats were the stupidest, least politically savvy people on earth or that 100's of thousands of ballots were cast with just Biden's oval colored in to cheat him into the Presidency.
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What d' I say?
form a commission. bipartisan
There is no such thing as a bipartisan committee. As Nancy Pelosi responded when asked what role Republicans played in drafting Obamacare "Republicans were in the room".

As court decisions on districting for minority representation has shown gerrymandering is in the eye of the beholder. Courts have found that guarantees of minority representation by clustering minority voters into concentrated districts is discrimination. Other courts have found distributing minor neighborhoods into multiple districts deprives minorities of a voice. Drawing district lines is inherently partisan that's why it should be decided by elected representatives.
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