Political Wrinkles  

Go Back   Political Wrinkles > Political Forums > The Constitution & The Judicial Branch
Register FAQDonate PW Store PW Trivia Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

The Constitution & The Judicial Branch Discuss The federal government outbid states on critical coronavirus supplies after Trump tol at the Political Forums; The federal government outbid states on critical coronavirus supplies after Trump told governors to get their own medical equipment A ...

Reply
 
Share LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2020, 07:21 PM
saltwn's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Esto perpetua
Posts: 88,268
Thanks: 57,122
Thanked 26,872 Times in 19,321 Posts
Send a message via AIM to saltwn Send a message via MSN to saltwn Send a message via Yahoo to saltwn
Default The federal government outbid states on critical coronavirus supplies after Trump tol

The federal government outbid states on critical coronavirus supplies after Trump told governors to get their own medical equipment

A lot of people cal Tump a "Sweet Old Boy" but they abbreviate it.

During a conference call with governors on Thursday, Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker told Trump his state was denied three major orders of equipment because the federal government had outbid him.

"I'm not quite sure what to do with this, so I'm just going to throw it out there for you," Baker told Trump on the call, according to Bloomberg News. "We took very seriously the push ... that we should not just rely on the stockpile, that we should go out there and buy stuff and put in orders and try to create pressure on manufacturers and distributors, and I gotta tell you that on three big orders, we lost to the feds."

Baker, a moderate Republican, added, "I've got a feeling that if someone has the chance to sell to you and to sell to me, I am going to lose on every one of those."

Trump chuckled at that and then said the federal government probably offered the manufacturers a better price.


mark up

Trump musta once been in the furniture business too.
__________________
...
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2020, 11:18 PM
cnredd's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Philadelphia
Gender: Male
Posts: 57,228
Thanks: 2,449
Thanked 39,295 Times in 21,863 Posts
Default Re: The federal government outbid states on critical coronavirus supplies after Trump

Trump didn't tell governors to get their own medical equipment...Fake media outlets took a sentence of his and removed the very next sentence...

New York Times Authors Deceptively Edit Trump’s Advice to Governors on Medical Ventilators

Quote:
At least eight New York Times authors shared a deceptively edited quote Monday from President Donald Trump’s recent call with state governors, creating the false impression that the president is denying federal support for ventilators that are needed in hospitals treating coronavirus patients.

In his message, the president recommended that states procure respirators and ventilators because it would be faster — but added that the federal government “will be backing you.”

The Times journalists omitted the bulk of the president’s statement as they shared the story on social media. The misleading, partial quote was also boosted by a CNN correspondent and became the lead headline at the left-wing Huffington Post.

Despite growing online backlash to this misinformation, the journalists have yet to delete or retract their comments.

The eight journalists tweeted a link to a Times article published Monday that contains President Trump’s full statement to state governors in which the president recommended that they shouldn’t wait for the federal government to fill the growing demand for respirators needed to treat people with coronavirus.

“Respirators, ventilators, all of the equipment — try getting it yourselves,” President Trump told the governors during the Monday conference call. “We will be backing you, but try getting it yourselves. Point of sales, much better, much more direct if you can get it yourself.”

But in the body of their posts, the Times journalists left out most of what the president said.
__________________
"You get the respect that you give" - cnredd
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to cnredd For This Useful Post:
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2020, 12:18 AM
saltwn's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Esto perpetua
Posts: 88,268
Thanks: 57,122
Thanked 26,872 Times in 19,321 Posts
Send a message via AIM to saltwn Send a message via MSN to saltwn Send a message via Yahoo to saltwn
Default Re: The federal government outbid states on critical coronavirus supplies after Trump

I didn't read that in the times I watched it. I've always been a horse's mouth kind of person in important matters. I watch trump's updates.

i don't have time to listen to the whole thing again but i think this is the one where he's asked that question and he did say the states can get them themselves.
one thing wrong is he does give mixed messages. I wish he would quit. now is the wrong time to try to spoof reporters.
he then told governors to try to procure first and if they couldn't get what they need the feds would back them. another thing is why are we paying more than states would pay anyhow?
__________________
...
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2020, 12:26 AM
saltwn's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Esto perpetua
Posts: 88,268
Thanks: 57,122
Thanked 26,872 Times in 19,321 Posts
Send a message via AIM to saltwn Send a message via MSN to saltwn Send a message via Yahoo to saltwn
Default Re: The federal government outbid states on critical coronavirus supplies after Trump

this is the kind of crossed signals you get when you don't try to build a team and coordinate with state governments.
he boasts about his genius; it's just that he doesn't play well with others.
__________________
...
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2020, 08:03 AM
mr wonder's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Virginia
Gender: Male
Posts: 15,271
Thanks: 12,824
Thanked 9,648 Times in 6,147 Posts
Default Re: The federal government outbid states on critical coronavirus supplies after Trump

Yes, Trump told the Governors not to wait for the Feds to supply them.
So both federal and state offices began buying supplies from various sorces. Some of those sources were the same. and the feds outbid and or got there 1st. So the feds are making available what ever they have and/or get from the sources they deal with. I'm sure it's not ALL source but some major suppliers for sure.

And yes it should have all been more coordinated but having worked in government and gone though the purchasing process... even when it's supposed to be expedited or "sole source". I understand some of the problem. And i understand why Trump wouldn't want to bottle neck the states into just waiting for the Fed to buy stuff when the states own supply chains ,in many cases, MAY have been much faster.

I don't see this as a big issues. Trump doesn't always explain stuff well, but i get this one. and he was right to do it that way IMO. Purchasing from within the government can be a nightmare, legal and otherwise, encouraging the states and localities to freely use their most nimble and backdoor purchasing options is the best way to go IMO.
it's going to be messy but faster.
__________________
.
"It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties.
The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents."

..James Madison
.
"Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God."
..1 Peter 2:16
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to mr wonder For This Useful Post:
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2020, 01:11 PM
Scholar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,993
Thanks: 447
Thanked 2,337 Times in 1,374 Posts
Default Re: The federal government outbid states on critical coronavirus supplies after Trump

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr wonder View Post
Yes, Trump told the Governors not to wait for the Feds to supply them.
So both federal and state offices began buying supplies from various sorces. Some of those sources were the same. and the feds outbid and or got there 1st. So the feds are making available what ever they have and/or get from the sources they deal with. I'm sure it's not ALL source but some major suppliers for sure.

And yes it should have all been more coordinated but having worked in government and gone though the purchasing process... even when it's supposed to be expedited or "sole source". I understand some of the problem. And i understand why Trump wouldn't want to bottle neck the states into just waiting for the Fed to buy stuff when the states own supply chains ,in many cases, MAY have been much faster.

I don't see this as a big issues. Trump doesn't always explain stuff well, but i get this one. and he was right to do it that way IMO. Purchasing from within the government can be a nightmare, legal and otherwise, encouraging the states and localities to freely use their most nimble and backdoor purchasing options is the best way to go IMO.
it's going to be messy but faster.
You have to remember, this is Salt. Anything 'Orange Man Bad' is totally acceptable and has to be literal truth. The fact that most of it is horse puckey means nothing to her.
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to loboloco For This Useful Post:
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-22-2020, 11:13 AM
GetAClue's Avatar
PW Enlightenment
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Northern Ohio
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,939
Thanks: 13,255
Thanked 9,718 Times in 5,526 Posts
Default Re: The federal government outbid states on critical coronavirus supplies after Trump

Quote:
Originally Posted by saltwn View Post
I didn't read that in the times I watched it. I've always been a horse's mouth kind of person in important matters. I watch trump's updates.

i don't have time to listen to the whole thing again but i think this is the one where he's asked that question and he did say the states can get them themselves.
one thing wrong is he does give mixed messages. I wish he would quit. now is the wrong time to try to spoof reporters.
he then told governors to try to procure first and if they couldn't get what they need the feds would back them. another thing is why are we paying more than states would pay anyhow?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ9WpP3MwpM
Then you are lying. If you had watched it live, you would have heard what he said. Your posts are not worth the time to read anymore. You should find a new hobby, one that doesn't require critical thinking.
__________________
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead - Thomas Paine

A lie doesn't become truth, a wrong doesn't become right, and Evil doesn't become good, just because it is accepted by the majority. - Booker T Washington
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to GetAClue For This Useful Post:
Reply

Tags
after, coronavirus, critical, federal, government, outbid, states, supplies, the, tol, trump

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0