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Supreme Court is divided over gay, transgender job bias in civil rights case to be decided during 2020 election


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The Supreme Court appeared deeply divided Tuesday on a major civil rights question: whether gay and transgender people are covered by a federal law barring employment discrimination on the basis of sex.

The court's rulings in three cases, which are not expected until next year, seemed to hinge on President Donald Trump's two nominees. Associate Justice Neil Gorsuch called the dispute over transgender rights "close" but more likely an issue for Congress to address. Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh directed his only question to a lawyer for two employers that fired gay workers, leaving his position in doubt.

The court's four liberal justices forcefully denounced the firings of two gay men and a transgender woman from Georgia, New York and Michigan and made clear they believe all three should be protected by the statutory ban on sex discrimination.

"We can't deny that homosexuals are being fired merely for being who they are and not because of religious reasons, not because they are performing their jobs poorly," Associate Justice Sonia Sotomayor said, calling it "invidious behavior."

More: SCOTUS ruling could alter lives of LGBTQ Americans

The three cases are among the most significant on the high court's 2019 docket, and the justices' rulings are likely to come in the heat of the 2020 presidential campaign. see more
Although it will be decided with the court we now have, the case serves as a reminder that the next POTUS gets to choose a justice or two and most of us have equally strong views on either side in this matter.
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Although it will be decided with the court we now have, the case serves as a reminder that the next POTUS gets to choose a justice or two and most of us have equally strong views on either side in this matter.
Oh the horror of a SCOTUS declining to make new law by "interpreting" a statute to advance the Progressive political agenda. What's next having to legislate?

Notice how very little attention is given to the defendant's side of the story. In the case of the gay sky diving instructor he was fired after a customer complained he touched her inappropriately. He offered up the I am gay excuse. It wasn't the first complaint. Just like Biden can't be investigated for corruption in the name of equality the gay man can touch a female customer any way he wants.
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Oh the horror of a SCOTUS declining to make new law by "interpreting" a statute to advance the Progressive political agenda. What's next having to legislate?

Notice how very little attention is given to the defendant's side of the story. In the case of the gay sky diving instructor he was fired after a customer complained he touched her inappropriately. He offered up the I am gay excuse. It wasn't the first complaint. Just like Biden can't be investigated for corruption in the name of equality the gay man can touch a female customer any way he wants.
same ol Az-'my guy did a bad thing but look who else might have!"
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same ol Az-'my guy did a bad thing but look who else might have!"
Salty. do you ever make any actual sense? Just as important, do you ever post anything that makes any sense?


First, the SCOTUS is not divided over this issue. SCOTUS hasn't heard the case nor ruled on it as yet. When they do, we will know the outcome. That's why they hear the cases before ruling.

Second, This case will not be decided during the election. It may possibly be ruled on at the same time as the election, but not during.

And that's just the headline. Why would I read further?
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same ol Az-'my guy did a bad thing but look who else might have!"
I point to the Democrat standard where your identity group or political statue determines how you are treated under the "law". You don't want to hear about the possibility of other factors that went into the decision to fire the sky diving instructor, it's all about his sexual orientation.

Does the gay employee have special privileges to touch female customers any way he wants? All we are supposed to focus on is his identity group so we can scream about homophobia.
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I point to the Democrat standard where your identity group or political statue determines how you are treated under the "law". You don't want to hear about the possibility of other factors that went into the decision to fire the sky diving instructor, it's all about his sexual orientation.

Does the gay employee have special privileges to touch female customers any way he wants? All we are supposed to focus on is his identity group so we can scream about homophobia.
While personally I don't care what someone declares as their gender or sexual orientation, what I bolded is spot on.

Some individuals use their identity (whatever it may be, gender, orientation, skin color, age) as the only defining factor as to why they may have been 'discriminated against'.

It's very wearing to have to listen to some squawk along those lines, but I try to accept the fact that sometimes, it is the truth. I hear wolf being called too many times....
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While personally I don't care what someone declares as their gender or sexual orientation, what I bolded is spot on.

Some individuals use their identity (whatever it may be, gender, orientation, skin color, age) as the only defining factor as to why they may have been 'discriminated against'.

It's very wearing to have to listen to some squawk along those lines, but I try to accept the fact that sometimes, it is the truth. I hear wolf being called too many times....
The other side of people using minority status to gain favor is that those members of the group that do a good job and won't create waves suffer the same as the troublemakers.

When I was a boss, I avoided hiring minority members. Once you have them you can't get rid of them for any reason.
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This is something to consider when we vote.
You're right, we need to replace a couple more activist liberal judges so that obvious cases like this aren't even close.
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I think that the plaintiffs would have a case if--and this is a very important "if"--we were to concede that gays were just "born that way," as most claim. (In that event, sexual orientation would be no different, fundamentally, than skin color: One simply could not help the way that one was born--and ought, therefore, not be penalized for it.)

But I do not concede the premise...
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