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The Constitution & The Judicial Branch Discuss John Paul Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment at the Political Forums; Originally Posted by FrancSevin There is no acceptable "middle ground" with the left when it involves the Bill of Rights. ... |
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But of course that's not what you meant . . . Because you can not allow yourself to argue the truth and actual law. Of course we on the gun rights side know what you are talking about, Heller's oft quoted list of "longstanding prohibitions" and most importantly, the "laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms" and it stands to reason, laws criminalizing certain simple gun possession and use. But, Heller, when mentioning laws not being examined by the Court in Heller, characterized them as being merely "presumptively legal" . . . Which means of course that said presumption of constitutionality can be challenged. Even such 'unquestionable' restrictions like felon dispossession have been challenged because of Heller. In 2011 the 3rd Circuit said:
Of course felon disablement of gun rights were/are sustained because they are founded on legitimate exercises of government authority which have been upheld many times using a wide range of legal reasoning under constitutional and common law. On the other hand, hundreds of gun control laws that were upheld by citing the 1942 lower federal court opinions of Tot or Cases --which polluted the federal courts with "collective right" BS-- and reasoned upon the theories that the 2nd does not secure an individual right, are infirm and when examined, WILL BE STRUCK DOWN. Always remember, when you wish to misrepresent Heller that inconvenient facts get in the way, like footnote 26 and the fact that the Court said that the very enumeration of the right to arms takes out of the hands of government the constant reevaluation of it, and that constitutional rights are enshrined with the scope they were understood to have when the people adopted them, and that enshrinement necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table. So, your general statement that, "SCOTUS has plainly stated that restrictions on types of guns are legal" is at best, a purposeful over-reading and at worst, a blatant misrepresentation intended only to deceive. At this point it really doesn't matter which one, whatever credibility you think you had/have, is a mirage. Leftists just can't be trusted to be honest voices on the Constitution and SCOTUS holdings and the subset that are hostile to gun rights can't be trusted with anything, especially the protection original, fundamental rights. The principle of retained rights is anathema to the political model they want to impose on us. .
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![]() It has often been said in this thread that the number of Democrats that support the repeal/abolishment of the 2nd Amendment is very small.
In a recent (April 11th) Quinnipiac poll the question was asked and now we know that 1 in 3 Democrats support repealing the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution (and clarified as intending to modify / abolish the right to keep and bear arms): ![]() The surprise for me is in the age breakdown. Millennials reject the idea of repealing the 2ndA at a higher rate than any other age group (86% oppose, 12% support. So much for the recent narrative being shoved down our throats about a major rejection of gun rights by young people. . .
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Even the Parkland martyrs brigade leader David Hogg claims he is not in favor of repealing the 2A as he advocates more restrictions on gun ownership such as the ineffective assault weapons ban. The broader question of so-called stricter gun laws shows the gun grabber tactical approach. Quote:
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