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Old 02-23-2018, 12:41 AM
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I would assert that it absolutely is a right that can be regulated by the government in the governments constitution and that it isn't an "inalienable", "natural", or "God given" (I really don't think it's important to God that we carry guns).


Did the government give you the right to defend yourself if you were threatened with injury or death? Or were you born with the right to do so? How about the right to breathe? You know what? Forget it. I can see where you are heading with this inane crap.
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I see you are coming from the "wildly unconstitutional" camp I mentioned.
Here's a list of some of the things you'll need to do to get what you're asking for:
- repeal the 2nd amendment: As you want to ban all "rapid fire" firearms, "rapid" being a subjective term, you'll need to eliminate the 2nd altogether. You have basically just called for a ban on every repeating firearm.
- Walk back HIPPA regulations. You now want medical records available to a much broader spectrum of people.
- Repeal the 4th amendment: If you want to deny/confiscate guns based on a diagnosis vs. court order your going to need to get rid of that pesky amendment.
I call bull **** on your little purty party. Poor gun hobbyists. Waaa!
We banned the tommy gun during the depression. Most military weapons after Vietnam were not available and the early attempts at mass s hool shootings were done by side arms brought back from wwi. We absolutely can outlaw rapid fire and mutsry grade guns and attachments.

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I call bull **** on your little purty party. Poor gun hobbyists. Waaa!
We banned the tommy gun during the depression. Most military weapons after Vietnam were not available and the early attempts at mass s hool shootings were done by side arms brought back from wwi. We absolutely can outlaw rapid fire and mutsry grade guns and attachments.

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What exactly are you considering "rapid fire weapons"? Anything semi-automatic? Anything above a certain rate of fire?
Just saying "ban rapid fire weapons" means nothing and displays an epic ignorance of the subject matter.
Also, nearly every firearm in existence today is the descendant of a "military (I assume that's what you meant by "mutsry") grade gun". If you want to ban "military grade weapons", you're banning nearly every firearm. Again displaying ignorance of the subject matter.
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What exactly are you considering "rapid fire weapons"? Anything semi-automatic? Anything above a certain rate of fire?
Just saying "ban rapid fire weapons" means nothing and displays an epic ignorance of the subject matter.
Also, nearly every firearm in existence today is the descendant of a "military (I assume that's what you meant by "mutsry") grade gun". If you want to ban "military grade weapons", you're banning nearly every firearm. Again displaying ignorance of the subject matter.
That appears to be all she's got!
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Old 02-26-2018, 12:05 PM
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What exactly are you considering "rapid fire weapons"? Anything semi-automatic? Anything above a certain rate of fire?
Just saying "ban rapid fire weapons" means nothing and displays an epic ignorance of the subject matter.
Also, nearly every firearm in existence today is the descendant of a "military (I assume that's what you meant by "mutsry") grade gun". If you want to ban "military grade weapons", you're banning nearly every firearm. Again displaying ignorance of the subject matter.
Saltwn, do you have an answer to this? If you can't address these questions, we can just presume you don't know what you are talking about
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