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Old 02-14-2018, 03:52 PM
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Need I remind you that you are the one that posted that the courts ruled it Constitutional:



You seem to be arguing with yourself.
You seem to have trouble with reading comprehension. Those are separate Court decisions. Not this one.
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Its always the same with you guys. When a court rules something you disagree the judges are always biased activist judges. It gets old.

Furthermore, from what I can tell by reading the decision, this legal challenge isn't about the legality of DACA.

It's whether the tRUmp administration violated the Administrative Processes Act when they repealed DACA.

When you go through a process to put a new Regulation in place, you have to go through the same process to undo it.

These Hamburglars didn't.
You probably need to do a small amount of research before posting.

There is no regulation. There is an EO. Obama bypassed Congress knowing it would never pass. But you are correct. EO in EO out.

President Trump did not rescind DACA. DACA expires March 5th. President Trump will not extend the EO.
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You probably need to do a small amount of research before posting.

There is no regulation. There is an EO. Obama bypassed Congress knowing it would never pass. But you are correct. EO in EO out.

President Trump did not rescind DACA. DACA expires March 5th. President Trump will not extend the EO.

It certainly sounds like you are the one who should do some research.

They used the Administrative Procedures Act to put it in place and hammer out all the rule-making for it.

It can still be undone by the executive, but if an EO goes through the APA process to be put in place, then it has to go through the APA process to be undone. That's what this is about. So no, tRUmp can't just do an EO to rescind DACA. And if he does try to undo it, it's going to go through a long ass process, becausebof the APA, and by that time the Midterms should have already happened, and every DACA recipient should have been able to renew.
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It certainly sounds like you are the one who should do some research.

They used the Administrative Procedures Act to put it in place and hammer out all the rule-making for it.

It can still be undone by the executive, but if an EO goes through the APA process to be put in place, then it has to go through the APA process to be undone. That's what this is about. So no, tRUmp can't just do an EO to rescind DACA. And if he does try to undo it, it's going to go through a long ass process, becausebof the APA, and by that time the Midterms should have already happened, and every DACA recipient should have been able to renew.
Kindly share with us your research with links to verify that the judge ruled based on failure to comply with the APA.

The Clinton appointed judge concocted a new standard of so-called fairness then concluded the decision to set a new end date for DACA was "arbitrary and capricious" thus it would not stand up to judicial challenge. Got that? His majesty on the bench decrees that not only the President but the other holies of the judiciary must hew to his definition of fairness. It is a classic case of a Resistance zealot judge trying to impose his personal politics as a judicial finding.

The judge's opinion is so muddled he can't even avoid contradicting himself.

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This ruling is rather strange on several fronts. For one thing, the judge ruled that the Trump administration, “indisputably can end the DACA program.” That means that as of March 5th they can stop accepting new applicants. But he followed that up by ruling that the government still had to accept renewal applications from people currently in the program. So he’s saying that we have to renew people for participation in a program that no longer exists?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/hotair....daca-sort/amp/
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