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Old 11-12-2007, 04:17 PM
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I can respect that.

There are folks that object to weapons in general and they should have the ability to choose not to carry.
And do you believe the opposite?...

In places where there is no requirement to carry a weapon, do you also think "folks that do not object to weapons in general should have the ability to choose to carry"?...

Because that's what this fight is about...

Washington DC law says that people who wish to arm themselves are denied that choice...

Do you agree?...
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And do you believe the opposite?...

In places where there is no requirement to carry a weapon, do you also think "folks that do not object to weapons in general should have the ability to choose to carry"?...

Because that's what this fight is about...

Washington DC law says that people who wish to arm themselves are denied that choice...

Do you agree?...
I had to sit and think about that for a moment...

Overall, my general answer would be "yes, within reason." There are places where NO weapon should be allowed, and there is no good reason for toting large assualy weapons on a daily basis.

I would have no objection to the the general adult population carrying an UNCONCEALED sidearm on a daily basis. I think it unnecessary and potentially a bigger danger to the person carrying it, but I do not object.

My only worry is that there are some REALLY reactive people out there. Can you imaging road rage when people have access to guns?

Recognize that 'not being forced to carry a gun' in my eyes is much like a gynocologist 'not being forced to perform abortions' if his/her beliefs go against it. That is different than 'having the option to carry.'
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If the applicant has no felony convictions or history of mental illness,they should be able to own and carry a concealed weapon.
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If the applicant has no felony convictions or history of mental illness,they should be able to own and carry a concealed weapon.
Why concealed?

I think that if most Americans are able to carry, it should be out in the open.
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Why concealed?

I think that if most Americans are able to carry, it should be out in the open.

I don't care if it's concealed or out in the open....

I'm easy to please as long as I can keep my 357...
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Why concealed?

I think that if most Americans are able to carry, it should be out in the open.
Agreed...

That would stop more crime than anything...
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JACKSON MILLER and Second Amendment

An Oklahoma Gangster’s Impact On U.S. Gun Laws

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The only U.S. Supreme Court decision that specifically dealt with the right of the people to keep and bear arms, is about to get a second look. News On 6 anchor Scott Thompson reports the high court is going to take up a new Second Amendment case. When it does, it may turn a small-time hood from Oklahoma into a household name.

During the Great Depression, the only thing more common than dust storms in Oklahoma may have been criminal legends. Charles "Pretty Boy" Floyd was the subject of a song written by Woody Guthrie. Hollywood immortalized Clyde Barrow and Bonnie Parker in the movie "Bonnie and Clyde." Machine Gun Kelly earned the FBI's title of "Public Enemy Number 1."

But none of them can claim the distinction Claremore's Jack Miller can.

"Yes, this obscure figure in Oklahoma history that people know very little about was a major figure in a U.S. Supreme Court case," said author and historian R.D. Morgan.
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If you look at the sentence

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"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
I think you'd have to agree, it means:

If we already have guns and are called upon in an extreme measure to defend ourselves, then there is one safety measure taken by our government to insure we have that ability at a moment's notice.


Hopefuly some of the more strict constitutionalists in the SC will see that as well.
The document is not outdated in this respect. There are wars and coups all over the globe as we speak. It's not just the "terrorists" although they are a factor.
With technology moving at break neck speed and hackers and blood money galore, the U.S. may be bombed to near disfunctionality one day. (Hope not-but let's not hide or heads in the sand!)
Well armed American citizens could be the last bastion of hope for the free world!
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