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Old 08-17-2015, 10:19 PM
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It is not assumed that a person exercising their 5th Amendment rights is guilty of anything.

Either the DOJ or a special prosecutor is required to investigate criminal activities. This is not a role of Congress that has no authority related to criminal prosecutions.
Nobody is assuming LL is legally guilty of anything at this point. But she is the suspect, and therefore not a likely a candidate for immunity as she is the person under investigation. A likely candidate for an immunity agreement is a smaller fish. One who knows something but isn't really a suspect.

We all know the problem with the DOJ. They are not going to prosecute anyone in the Obama Administration. Likewise a special prosecutor appointed by the DOJ.
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I'm not really either but if criminal conduct is suspecfed then Congress should call on the DOJ or authorize a special prosecutor to conduct the investigation and prosecute if the evidence supports a criminal indictment. Congress does not have prosecutorial powers and it's not even a court that can reach determinations of criminal actions by a person. Hell, the proceedings in Congress don't even have to meet the minimum standards required by a court of law.

Fact finding and criminal investigations are two unrelated types of investigation.
The DOJ is the instrument of the same apparently corrupt administration as the IRS. Would you truly expect the DOJ to properly follow its mandate in this matter?
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Nobody is assuming LL is legally guilty of anything at this point. But she is the suspect, and therefore not a likely a candidate for immunity as she is the person under investigation. A likely candidate for an immunity agreement is a smaller fish. One who knows something but isn't really a suspect.

We all know the problem with the DOJ. They are not going to prosecute anyone in the Obama Administration. Likewise a special prosecutor appointed by the DOJ.
I am not a lawyer nor do I play one on TV. Prosecutors do not hand out grants of immunity without knowing what the person can contribute to the understanding of the case. There is a legal device called a proffer where the person can tell what they know without the information being used against them in a criminal prosecution. Without a proffer it would be foolish to offer LL immunity. Once armed with immunity she would have no motivation to tell the truth.
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the political bull sh*t has ruined that woman's life
Ahhh, there it is again, the 'victim mentality', blame everyone else for your own mistakes. Typical response from the Left.

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no your propaganda rag rewrites history maybe; not me. I explain to the lame what the hell is really going on.
"Lame"? I have a different opinion on who the lame one is here. I guess you are calling Ms Lerner a liar then, no?

You wouldn't know "what the hell is really going on" if it hit you in the head my dear.


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just read her job title:

director of the Exempt Organizations Unit of the IRS

She was doing her job till the campaign committee for Republican candidates decided to throw up a smoke screen and a few red herrings (court hearings) so that the majority of pacs are now not getting the scrutiny necessary to keep them from stealing taxpayer dollars.
Where do you get these false talking points salty? Do you make them up?

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Oh brother. Another non partisan admonishment.

OK, How about this. Judicial watch is a lying piece of shlt organization who calls Obama a Muslim. Using them as a source of anything is stupid and if I have to point out what a piece of shlt organization they are it's because some people don't care about facts as much as they do partisanship.
Your obvious deflection is not working Mikeyy.
Would you prefer another source other than judicial watch?
Are these better?


Judge to IRS attorneys: I’m about to charge Koskinen personally with contempt Hot Air
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I notice it is crickets from Mikeyy since you caught him making a blatantly false statement.
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no your propaganda rag rewrites history maybe; not me. I explain to the lame what the hell is really going on.
So, despite the IRS admitting she did it, she is innocent?

Have you forgotten the folks who's lives she stressed? That's sweet of you.

There is a reason she lost her job. There is a reason the FBI is investigating. There is a reason she has an attorney. There is a reason she took the fifth.

There is no reason, WE THE PEOPLE don't have the answers. The reason is Lois Lerner.
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The Obama house of cards is falling down around the Dems these days..

Interesting to see how pathetic the left wingers here are to try and negate the facts..

BTW it is not working very well at all. You are starting to look like Obama!

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Didn't judicial watch make this claim months ago? Nothing happened. Guess I was right about this being a non story.
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