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Obamacare ruling puts Supreme Court on hot seat in U.S. presidential race


'' Some conservatives have been skeptical of Roberts from the start, saying he was maddeningly opaque about his judicial philosophy during his 2005 Senate confirmation hearings. Roberts had spent only about two years as a federal appeals court judge, which meant a sparse paper trail illuminating his judicial philosophy.

In opening remarks during his confirmation hearing before the U.S. Senate judiciary committee in 2005, Roberts spoke neutrally, noting that "Judges are not politicians who can promise to do certain things in exchange for votes" and vowing to "confront every case with an open mind."

“We wanted to be supportive, but there were these nagging doubts,” said Carrie Severino, policy director of the conservative Judicial Crisis Network. “You can’t assume someone is going to go south, but it appears the concerns were warranted. It’s what happens when you nominate someone who doesn’t have a clear record.”''

So they want some one who will legislate from the bench...
Haven't these clowns ever heard of separation of powers?

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I hope Roberts gets his ass handed to him after the election.
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'' Some conservatives have been skeptical of Roberts from the start, saying he was maddeningly opaque about his judicial philosophy during his 2005 Senate confirmation hearings. Roberts had spent only about two years as a federal appeals court judge, which meant a sparse paper trail illuminating his judicial philosophy.

In opening remarks during his confirmation hearing before the U.S. Senate judiciary committee in 2005, Roberts spoke neutrally, noting that "Judges are not politicians who can promise to do certain things in exchange for votes" and vowing to "confront every case with an open mind."

“We wanted to be supportive, but there were these nagging doubts,” said Carrie Severino, policy director of the conservative Judicial Crisis Network. “You can’t assume someone is going to go south, but it appears the concerns were warranted. It’s what happens when you nominate someone who doesn’t have a clear record.”''

So they want some one who will legislate from the bench...
Haven't these clowns ever heard of separation of powers?

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In Roberts decision yesterday he proclaimed the opinion to be in defiance of the plain meaning of the wording in the stature. He abstracted "state" into the so-called context of ACA then declared the exercise made the term's meaning unclear thus empowering him to redefine it however he chose.

Like the earlier individual mandate decision Roberts concocted a theory that allowed the SCOTUS to rewrite Obamacare at their pleasure. The Federal government never argued the individual mandate was a tax but Roberts found it to be one and awarded the Federal government the authority to "tax" anyone for not buying a product they decreed required. Now the plain meaning of state exchanges is discarded in favor of some perversion pleasing to Roberts the political toady.

The Roberts court is clearly legislating from the bench in support of SCOTUS CARE.
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In Roberts decision yesterday he proclaimed the opinion to be in defiance of the plain meaning of the wording in the stature. He abstracted "state" into the so-called context of ACA then declared the exercise made the term's meaning unclear thus empowering him to redefine it however he chose.

Like the earlier individual mandate decision Roberts concocted a theory that allowed the SCOTUS to rewrite Obamacare at their pleasure. The Federal government never argued the individual mandate was a tax but Roberts found it to be one and awarded the Federal government the authority to "tax" anyone for not buying a product they decreed required. Now the plain meaning of state exchanges is discarded in favor of some perversion pleasing to Roberts the political toady.

The Roberts court is clearly legislating from the bench in support of SCOTUS CARE.
'' But federal exchanges were authorized for states that did not set up their own, and the Obama administration argued that millions of people served by a federal marketplace were entitled to the subsidies, too.

The court agreed that that was the only way the law would work and that, although the legislation’s wording was problematic, Congress’s intent was clear.''

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“Congress passed the Affordable Care Act to improve health insurance markets, not to destroy them. If at all possible we must interpret the Act in a way that is consistent with the former, and avoids the latter,” Roberts wrote.
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So yeah they write a bill to work not to fail.


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I hope Roberts gets his ass handed to him after the election.
How? He isn't elected and has a lifetime appointment.
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'' But federal exchanges were authorized for states that did not set up their own, and the Obama administration argued that millions of people served by a federal marketplace were entitled to the subsidies, too.

The court agreed that that was the only way the law would work and that, although the legislation’s wording was problematic, Congress’s intent was clear.''


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Kindly share with us the source of Constitutional authority that authorizes the SCOTUS to rewrite laws because Congress didn't intend for it to fail. You can't because it doesn’t exist.

The limitation of subsidies to state exchanges is a problem for the Obama administration's ACA implementation. Obama's incompetence is not something for the SCOTUS to fix, at least not under the Constitution.
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Kindly share with us the source of Constitutional authority that authorizes the SCOTUS to rewrite laws because Congress didn't intend for it to fail. You can't because it doesn’t exist.

The limitation of subsidies to state exchanges is a problem for the Obama administration's ACA implementation. Obama's incompetence is not something for the SCOTUS to fix, at least not under the Constitution.
Kindly get off the broken record ''constitution-constitution''
Because you clearly do not understand its content nor its intent.

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Kindly get off the broken record ''constitution-constitution''
Because you clearly do not understand its content nor its intent.

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Using your superior understanding of the Constitution kindly cite with references the relevant text permitting the SCOTUS to rewrite laws because they don't work.

Clearly you can't because all you can offer is the excuse that somehow I don't understand the Constitution while displaying no knowledge of it yourself.
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Using your superior understanding of the Constitution kindly cite with references the relevant text permitting the SCOTUS to rewrite laws because they don't work.

Clearly you can't because all you can offer is the excuse that somehow I don't understand the Constitution while displaying no knowledge of it yourself.
The scotus does not write it interprets law.

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The scotus does not write it interprets law.

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That's right they interpret the law, they can't rewrite it if it is flawed you twit!
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