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This thread started in July 2014. It has produced nothing but the hopes of the haters that they will find something on Obama. Striking out yet again.
Thanks for all the contributions you've made to the issue. It has been going on a long time, but the posts and comments have mostly followed the dripping of information and concealment of documents that has placed this in front of Judge Jackson's DC bench. The FOIA requests have also resulted in lawsuits and a judges intervention. The POTUS has nothing to do with F&F except that:

1. He claimed he learned about the gunrunning from news reports.
2. WH staff was in contact with DOJ about the issue.
3. Lanny Breuer, Dennis Burke and others were appointees and directly involved.
4. Bill Newell was feeding info to NSA staff at the WH.
5. Some in the administration are firmly for more gun laws.
6. Executive Privilege and the document concealment is ongoing.

It has been a long time waiting for the release of documents. Stonewalling is effective as we've watched it in practice.
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On Jan 28th, 5 days before the deadline, Lynch asked for 60 days more time until March 21st. The Committee objected of course, but Jackson went ahead and suspended the Feb 2 deadline. Jackson stated that although she doesn't believe Lynch needs more time, because the original ruling was Aug of 2014, she is bound by appellate rules.

April 8, 2016 is now the new deadline to produce documents related to the Oct. 11, 2011 subpoena. She also states that "this is a FINAL, APPEALABLE ORDER." Final and appealable certainly seem contradictory so if I'm reading this right, the document concealment will go on because Lynch will continue the legacy of her predecessor and appeal.
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Back in March 2013, Judicial Watch filed a FOIA for documents related to an ordered mediation between Congress and the DOJ and of course they were denied. JW sued and was denied by district court Judge, then appealed to a 3 judge panel who vacated that decision and sent the case to Judge Jackson so she could clarify a statement she made. Her clarification will be sent back to the 3 judge panel in order rule on a handful of documents related to a failed mediation.
Why such secrecy?

http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...us-docs-secret
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More left wing bull sh1t to keep us from the truth...

Liars the left are, from Obama, Hillary and on down the ladder. Stonewalling liars, all of them.

Can't wait to end the sh1t the left wing has pulled on the rest of us. This is just one little piece....

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Great posting of the facts zoriolus , please keep up the great work.

And 300 H and H man I agree 100% with what you last said..

Even a simple Liberal has to lie or lose face daily. They lie while looking into any mirror or item that reflects back their image, so they can do it in public.
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From your story by the RW writer Julian Hattem

"A federal appeals court on Friday overturned a lower court ruling that kept a lid on a handful of documents related to a lawsuit from Congress over the Obama administration’s botched “Fast and Furious” operation."

That is the first line of the story. This wasn't a Obama administrations operation. I have not seen a shred of evidence that Obama knew a thing about it. And nobody else has either.


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Back in March 2013, Judicial Watch filed a FOIA for documents related to an ordered mediation between Congress and the DOJ and of course they were denied. JW sued and was denied by district court Judge, then appealed to a 3 judge panel who vacated that decision and sent the case to Judge Jackson so she could clarify a statement she made. Her clarification will be sent back to the 3 judge panel in order rule on a handful of documents related to a failed mediation.
Why such secrecy?

Court overturns order keeping 'Fast and Furious' documents secret | TheHill
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From your story by the RW writer Julian Hattem

"A federal appeals court on Friday overturned a lower court ruling that kept a lid on a handful of documents related to a lawsuit from Congress over the Obama administration’s botched “Fast and Furious” operation."

That is the first line of the story. This wasn't a Obama administrations operation. I have not seen a shred of evidence that Obama knew a thing about it. And nobody else has either.
Thanks. The article includes the ruling document which we all appreciate.
It explains what the documents are and what they are not. Are documents about the release of documents to be sealed from public view based on executive privilege which, by the way, she ruled didn't apply? We are in this legal labyrinth or as Frank7 called it, a "snake ball".
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to Mikeyy I might have to reverse myself...
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From your story by the RW writer Julian Hattem

"A federal appeals court on Friday overturned a lower court ruling that kept a lid on a handful of documents related to a lawsuit from Congress over the Obama administration’s botched “Fast and Furious” operation."

That is the first line of the story. This wasn't a Obama administrations operation. I have not seen a shred of evidence that Obama knew a thing about it. And nobody else has either.
Yet for now I stand firm..
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