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Old 10-12-2012, 12:39 PM
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I swear.
Sometimes I feel like I want to force people to pass a test on Venn diagrams and logic before they're allowed to respond, cause inevitably some people say just abjectly absurd crap.

My answer to your question is "No, that is not my opinion"
I have no idea why you think that would be an intelligent question to me. Especially considering I have pushed the Civil Rights Act in different threads.

On the other hand, I have talked to a few people on the right who have fervently argued that the Civil Rights Act (or at least sections like employment, etc) are a violation of state rights.
That's something I've seen on the right. Not the left.



What the heck do you think you mean by "same standard"?
"Legalization of recreational drugs"? Are you assuming my stance regarding federal / state positions? Or are you actually interested?
Some of the posts I have seen from you in the past indicate to me you're not interested. More interested in telling people what you think their position is.

Regardless, the legalization of recreational drugs brings up an interesting point that the states and the federal government do not have to have the same rules. Something can be illegal at the federal level, but not at the state level.
If you can elaborate on what you THINK you're driving towards, enlighten me. You would do well to NOT assume my position though.

Regarding states and abortion, you are seriously clueless.
Nothing I have said can rationally be construed to imply that I think states should decide for themselves on abortion.
You're lost somewhere here...



First off, 9th amendment.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
The right has a SERIOUS problem grasping the importance of that amendment.

Secondly, I can't help but notice YOU'RE REFUSING TO COMMENT ON THE TOPIC...
Supreme Court? Affirmative action?
By your policy, SCOTUS shouldn't hear this case at all.
Right?
You stated that this was a State's rights issue and EVERY SINGLE ONE of these has been defended as being State's rights issue. I'm just trying to figure where you draw the line between State's rights and Fed. authority. I think that the US Constitution draws the line very clearly and you seem to think that it's a standard that gets changed according to whatever political goal is in the crosshairs. Yes, I know that I'm using comparisons and that confuses you most of the time, but do try to keep up.


BTW - If you'd like to throw out the use of a Venn diagram, I'd be happy to oblige, since it would show that you just screwed the pooch pretty badly on this one. Your logic would show two intersecting circles with a whole bunch of exclusions within the intersect and no rationale as to why they were excluded and other points were not.

Don't try to intimidate me with semi-esoteric terminology like "Venn diagrams", because I know enough to either throw them right back at you or prove that you don't know what you're talking about.
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You stated that this was a State's rights issue ...
No.
I did not.
READ what I said.
In the first post I made on this issue, I CLEARLY denoted I was speaking sarcastically.

You obviously (yet again ) have failed to comprehend what was actually said.


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I'm just trying to figure where you draw the line between State's rights and Fed. authority. I think that the US Constitution draws the line very clearly and you seem to think that it's a standard that gets changed according to whatever political goal is in the crosshairs. Yes, I know that I'm using comparisons and that confuses you most of the time, but do try to keep up.
You are mis-stating MY opinion, yet I am the one supposedly confused...


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BTW - If you'd like to throw out the use of a Venn diagram, I'd be happy to oblige, since it would show that you just screwed the pooch pretty badly on this one. Your logic would show two intersecting circles with a whole bunch of exclusions within the intersect and no rationale as to why they were excluded and other points were not.
"My logic"?
Yet again, you're mis-stating my opinion.
You are not talking about "my logic".


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Don't try to intimidate me with semi-esoteric terminology like "Venn diagrams", because I know enough to either throw them right back at you or prove that you don't know what you're talking about.
All I have to do to intimidate you is point to the facts.

The topic at hand. This is the SECOND TIME you've dodged talking about it...
9th amendment? You refuse to even try to broach it.

You're babbling about junk that is not my opinion.

And the pathetic part is I WAS NOT TRYING to "intimidate" you.
I'm trying to get you to do something NEW for a change. Talk about my ACTUAL opinion instead of your perpetual confusion...

If you want to describe your Venn diagram of what my supposed opinion is, please do so.
Make sure to QUOTE ME to help justify your claim of what my opinion is...
(And since THAT would involve a FACT, I'm betting that intimidates you... )

And let me repeat something else that obviously intimidates you...
Secondly, I can't help but notice YOU'RE REFUSING TO COMMENT ON THE TOPIC...
Supreme Court? Affirmative action?
By your policy, SCOTUS shouldn't hear this case at all.
Right?
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