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Old 06-08-2019, 07:48 AM
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The moon landing and space flight is on solid ground.
But there's only ONE bit of the "no moon landing conspiracy" assertions that's compelling or confusing to me.

it's Van Allen Belt radiation problem.
I haven't seen a really solid debunking of the problem of men traveling through it and unshielded space without serious radiation problems.

Even airline pilots, flight attendants and frequent flyers have to be careful about general exposure to radiation from simply airline flight well under the protection of the earths magnetic field.
the amount of cosmic and solar radiation that would hit a body in and beyond in the Van Alan belt, would seem to me, to be extremely high.

the standard reply i've seen is that
1. they chose/avoided times where solar activity was high.
2. they went though the Van Allen belts very fast so not much time for exposure
3. while there they didn't get very high exposure.
4. the capsules had good shielding
so no worries.

Ok cool that sounds pretty good ,my problem is this, Usually at the beginning of the explanation there's the admission that the earth magnetic field protects us from extremely dangerous UV rays/radiation/cosmic rays/solar radiation, and if the magnetic field were not there all life on earth would die in short order.

OK So how is that the astronauts could survive OUTSIDE of the earths magnetic field for 5 to 12 days strait and go though the Van Alan Belts twice on each trip but suffer no problems? Except the odd "flashes" of light from cosmic radiation .

Are the dangers exaggerated? Was the shielding THAT effective?
if so why not use it on airlines to reduce their exposure since they have the MOST radiation exposed jobs in the world.
But this also comes to mind, they had little windows in the capsules, was there shielding there too?
And what about the space suits, are they that great at keeping out all this deadly radiation, with the glass face mask during long moon walks, space walks, and car rides?

hmm, maybe so, but frankly the explanations seem a bit strained.
5 to 12 days of continuous exposure to even low levels of multiple forms of radiation would seem to me to be a problem.
Would anyone expect get exposed to an X-Ray for 30-minutes, 3-hours... 24-hours strait without some health concerns?
Maybe I'm missing something, but IMO i haven't seen it explained away completely... so far.

I take it as a matter of history that we did go to moon, but that aspect of it does cause me to question what the details of the story are there.
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Yup, itís the same mentality that made people think that a guy pretending to be an ultra-successful businessman on a TV game show was actually qualified to be president.
Yeah, we know. Everyone that thinks that the government should be smaller and out of our lives, and that people should be responsible for themselves and their families are all idiots. Blah, blah, blah.

Trump must live rent free in your head. You are so consumed with hatred for the current president that you allow it to infect every moment of your life. You must live a miserable existence. You should seek professional help.
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I think it's more of a reflection of the populace...

Turn on the TV at any time of day and you'll catch another "Looking for Bigfoot" show, or "55th Alaskan Show With People Walking 15 Miles" or "Every Third House in Town Is Haunted"...
You don't believe in Big-Foot...Ö??

I've had Big-Foot pancakes and they taste mighty good....
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Yeah, we know. Everyone that thinks that the government should be smaller and out of our lives, and that people should be responsible for themselves and their families are all idiots. Blah, blah, blah.

Trump must live rent free in your head. You are so consumed with hatred for the current president that you allow it to infect every moment of your life. You must live a miserable existence. You should seek professional help.
You can believe and advocate for all of those things regarding the government. None of it makes a a clown like Trump remotely qualified.
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You don't believe in Big-Foot...Ö??

I've had Big-Foot pancakes and they taste mighty good....
Were they made BY Bigfoot or made OF Bigfoot?...
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Yup, itís the same mentality that made people think that a guy pretending to be an ultra-successful businessman on a TV game show was actually qualified to be president.
Let's insert politics on the most non-political thread on the forum...
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The moon landing and space flight is on solid ground.
But there's only ONE bit of the "no moon landing conspiracy" assertions that's compelling or confusing to me.

it's Van Allen Belt radiation problem.
I haven't seen a really solid debunking of the problem of men traveling through it and unshielded space without serious radiation problems.
Try this, its explained in plain language.

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Try this, its explained in plain language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLtgS2_qxJk
Yeah,
she says pretty much what i outlined. But she doesn't really address the amount of radiation throughout the days of flight, she only mentioned the "low levels" as they "quickly" passed through the belts.

(And misquotes a NASA scientist at the end as well)

So i still haven't seen a direct answer to fact that they out there 5 to 12 days without Earth's magnetic field protection. Shielded by capsules for days or only glass for hours on end.

maybe i missed understood it. she mentions the "average"
Average TOTAL radiation for the whole trip. was lower than 1 CT scan? seriously? Daily Average? what?
If that's the case then why all of the hype about how much the magnetic field is protecting the earth. and Airline flight crews concerns well within our magnetic field?.
Seems there's something missing in this,
Or am i just off somewhere?
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Yeah,
she says pretty much what i outlined. But she doesn't really address the amount of radiation throughout the days of flight, she only mentioned the "low levels" as they "quickly" passed through the belts.

(And misquotes a NASA scientist at the end as well)

So i still haven't seen a direct answer to fact that they out there 5 to 12 days without Earth's magnetic field protection. Shielded by capsules for days or only glass for hours on end.

maybe i missed understood it. she mentions the "average"
Average TOTAL radiation for the whole trip. was lower than 1 CT scan? seriously? Daily Average? what?
If that's the case then why all of the hype about how much the magnetic field is protecting the earth. and Airline flight crews concerns well within our magnetic field?.
Seems there's something missing in this,
Or am i just off somewhere?
It was the whole trip, the Van Allen Belt isn't that super deadly monster standing behind you. The most radiation absorbed was like 1.4 rads on Apollo 14 and it would take 2.5 rads to cause the first stage of radiation sickness, and not even close to a lethal dose. The Conspiracy Theories base it on the fact its harder to shield a microprocessor from it, and takes much less to damage them, something Apollo did not have. Their minds can't put together the human body is more rugged than your laptop.
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