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We can find plenty of conspiracy theories yet watching a bit of TV today I came on this. And decided to look into it.

After some searching I found this nice piece which explains the truth of the situation. I came across several other works which were near the same.

So I guess if one reads this He/She will have to decide on what is right our present situation or these facts.

America's Constitution was formed mostly from the Free Masons Constitution..
And all High Masons are men of Power.

And it doesn't serve the American citizen as much as it serves the Federal
Government.
I do hope we can debate what I posted. Do keep this in mind.

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The US Constitution was a betrayal of the Declaration of Independence. Real patriots such as Patrick Henry, George Mason and a few others saw it as a blueprint for empire and fought it. The Bill of Rights was added at their insistence as a defense against the Constitution! Big Banker whores such as Hamilton and the Federalists didn't want any enumerated rights - they said "You must trust us and our promises to observe your rights." Henry said, "Not good enough - we need guarantees."

In 1976, the Sovereign Grand Commander of the 33rd Degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, Henry C. Clausen, published a little book called "Masons Who Helped Shape Our Nation." On page 82, he writes: "Though free, we were not yet united [1783]. The loose Articles of Confederation did not provide a strong national government, common currency or consistent judicial system. Men of vision realized that another step must be taken if he weak Confederation of American States was to become a strong, unified nation. Again Freemasonry set the pattern in ideology and form. Since the Masonic federal system of organization was the only pattern for effective organization operating in each of the original Thirteen Colonies, it was natural that patriotic Brethren should turn to the organizational base of the Craft for a model. Regardless of the other forces that affected the formation of the Constitution during the Constitutional Convention in 1787, the fact remains that the federalism created is identical t the federalism of the Grand Lodge system of Masonic government created in Anderson's Constitutions of 1723."

Clausen, an attorney, is naturally proud of the Constitution's Supreme Court, with Brother John Marshall the first Chief Justice, and the man who revealed the Masons' contempt for us all in his enunciation of "judicial review," which meant simply that the Supreme Court was the true power. Where is the check and balance on the Supreme Court?

Masons crave power and that's what they got with their seven Articles. They fought the Ten Articles of Amendment (the Bill of Rights) right up till December, 1791. They nullified their own Constitution in 1913 with the 17th Amendment. This provided for the direct election of Senators. The Constitution was a contract between the States and the People, the former represented by Senators appointed by State legislatures and the latter by Representatives elected popularly. When Senators became elected popularly, too, the States were no longer represented and the Constitution was rendered null and void. We have been under a sham government ever since.

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We can find plenty of conspiracy theories yet watching a bit of TV today I came on this. And decided to look into it.

After some searching I found this nice piece which explains the truth of the situation. I came across several other works which were near the same.

So I guess if one reads this He/She will have to decide on what is right our present situation or these facts.

America's Constitution was formed mostly from the Free Masons Constitution..
And all High Masons are men of Power.

And it doesn't serve the American citizen as much as it serves the Federal
Government.
I do hope we can debate what I posted. Do keep this in mind.


Our Masonic Constitution

Also see the Search Page:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Americ...ZI&form=MOZSBR
I think that when an article starts with bug banker whores such as Hamilton and the Federalists it pay to peruse the site in question. I did. I'll pass.
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I think that when an article starts with bug banker whores such as Hamilton and the Federalists it pay to peruse the site in question. I did. I'll pass.


jimbo, this is why I provide the second link, the search page.. As this allows the reader to select their own source which they know is good.

As almost always I do things with a purpose... ....

So jimbo I invite you to make your own media choice and comment.

I then would reply... ...........
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I think it safe to say that our current government is not serving the People. But false to claim it is the fault of the Constitution. Nothing wrong with the compact. But how it is implemented. It is implemented by men and women which even the founders warned, could be it's undoing.

The Constitution will again serve the people once we stop re-inventing , re-interpreting, what it says and what it means. From the office of President to the Courts, to the Congress, and down to the enlisted military, all take an oath to preserve and defend the Constitution. We are the ONLY nation in the world that does that.

An oath to protect and defend the Constitution is not referring to the physical document. But to the words and intent of those who suffered loss of Blood, Treasure and Life, to create, ratify, and install it.

We can amend it. But please, let us stop "bending " it.
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Nice post Franc..

Having taken that oath myself I know how deeply I was moved as were others by the meaning. Over the years I watched it's abuse..

Yet to continue to allow the corruption and contempt of the very words/meanings of our Constitution is to betray that oath. Nor do we need to admen or reinvent our understanding of its words/meaning.

We need to unbend it's present use. And apply it's meaning as you mentioned. It says we the people can put aside the present federal govt., and start a new one..




Yet I believe if one reads some of this or one of the choices along the same line, we find just how deep into govt., men of power, top Free Masons are in control...
And that is where I want to go with this conspiracy theory......... If some are gamed....
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I meant to post this in post one.. Part of the reason I wanted to do this thread.



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Posted September 16, 2017 05:53 pm
By The Capital-Journal Editorial Board

Editorial: Why we study the Constitution

Our founding document helps us understand what it means to be an American


On Sept. 17, Americans will observe Constitution Day — a time to celebrate the document that underpins our system of government and enshrines the rights and freedoms that make our country worth defending. Constitution Day was established in 2004 as part of a federal spending bill authored by Sen. Robert Byrd. As the National Constitution Center explains, “This clause mandates the teaching of the Constitution in schools that receive federal funds, as well as federal agencies.” Constitution Day reminds us of this obligation and our responsibilities as citizens.

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The Bill of Rights was written when absolute monarchs still reigned over most of Europe. Concepts like democratic representation and inalienable rights were revolutionary and destabilizing. Instead of a monarchy that derived its power from God and heredity, our founders created a system that could only function if it had the consent of the governed. The people were free to choose their rulers and the law would always hold sway over those rulers.

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Are we really free to pick our leaders or does the system decide for us? Are we sure this law works?
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I don't go along with everything in the OP but I do agree we ought to repeal the 17th amendment and reign in not just the SCOTUS but the entire Federal judiciary. Too often we have Senators like John McCain who eschew the interest of their states to pander to the Washington DC elites. As for the Federal judiciary, it has devolved into a playground for activists dissatisfied with election results or law. Who cares how the election came out or the legislature voted, just pick the judge whose politics agree with yours and away we go.

Having Senators chosen by state legislators will require another Constitutional amendment which will be opposed by incumbents and their puppet masters but fortunately the state legislators have a voice in the process instead of just acting as vassals to the Federal government.

Early in Jefferson's first term he exercised his Constitutional authority to dissolve the Federal judiciary below the SCOTUS. Congress withheld funding for the SCOTUS term. Funniest thing, the supposed guardians of the Constitution wouldn't work without a payroll. Despite all the nattering about the SCOTUS being the final authority, Congress has the whip hand if they are willing to use it.
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I don't go along with everything in the OP but I do agree we ought to repeal the 17th amendment and reign in not just the SCOTUS but the entire Federal judiciary. Too often we have Senators like John McCain who eschew the interest of their states to pander to the Washington DC elites. As for the Federal judiciary, it has devolved into a playground for activists dissatisfied with election results or law. Who cares how the election came out or the legislature voted, just pick the judge whose politics agree with yours and away we go.

Agreed...


Having Senators chosen by state legislators will require another Constitutional amendment which will be opposed by incumbents and their puppet masters but fortunately the state legislators have a voice in the process instead of just acting as vassals to the Federal government.

I am not sure about other states, but our D.C. GOP Party Members, try hard to maintain control over any process between Kansas and D.C... So much of that voice could be "GOP" base lines wants.

The people need protection from Party Bosses and all sorts of govt., corruption. Also the people need all Lobbyist gone from interfering in our processes..
From what we have near 240 years later isn't working great. IS way to costly and groans from the waste of dollars, corruption..[/U]



Early in Jefferson's first term he exercised his Constitutional authority to dissolve the Federal judiciary below the SCOTUS. Congress withheld funding for the SCOTUS term. Funniest thing, the supposed guardians of the Constitution wouldn't work without a payroll. Despite all the nattering about the SCOTUS being the final authority, Congress has the whip hand if they are willing to use it.


Also consider term limits...
We do know long serving House & Senate members work against the processes for which they were elected. Plus allows more Party Control.

Congress/Senate persons need to work for the People more so than the Party.

Wasn't this the idea?
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