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mlurp 10-26-2016 05:11 PM

The truth on how the Violence came to Palestinian
 
About the ever present question about why the conflict between the Jewish nation and the Arabs simply know as The Palestinian Question. And relates to the many years of violence between a large number of Palestinian's of today and the Jewish Nation.
And whom started the use of violence as it was very peaceful in the area at this time.

Well it goes back to when the Nazi's were a growing threat to any German Jew.
Around 1937 onward.
Some Jews slowly were getting back to the area of Israel then called by the Arabs as Palestinian, and the British had appointed a title of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem to (al Quds) Haj Amin al-Husseini, and at this time as in the past
there was no violence involved in the question of land for Jews. Quite simply the question was to be settled by treaty using words not guns.

Except the Grand Mufti was trying to gain support for the use of violence and from 1937 to 1945 he had gotten around 5,000 Arabs killed by mostly the British forces.
Some time in the year 1939 he contacted someone high in the Nazi Party to express support for Hitler and the Jewish Question.

The Nazi's got together with the Grand Mufti and others for mutual support and for the Nazi's have the British Forces engaged in the Middle East at the proper time so that Hitlers plan invasion of Russia wouldn't be upset by the British Forces in England.

SEE & READ THIS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relati...the_Arab_world

Also take a pick from these choices: https://www.bing.com/search?q=1939+t...ZI&form=MOZSPG

See I have seen this show before on this topic but by the time I got to PW I had forgotten much of it as now.. Hey I am :grandpa old. :D

But this time I did a search for the information.

I sure hope the hard core Left read and understand this... Cause sooner or later this topic of the violence between the Jew's & Palestinian's will return.

saltwn 10-26-2016 10:09 PM

re: The truth on how the Violence came to Palestinian
 
but now the jews need to stop further encroachment and the un needs to just split it and jerusalem down the middle w everyone having access to resources. or dual government

mlurp 10-27-2016 05:14 PM

Re: The truth on how the Violence came to Palestinian
 
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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 847033)
but now the jews need to stop further encroachment and the un needs to just split it and jerusalem down the middle w everyone having access to resources. or dual government

I would say let them decide what is the proper once they let go of what happened yesterday, last week or 70 years ago.

Both have rights but a few evil people made it so bad and infused the hate.. Now they need to back it up and drop all demands admit each has made mistakes and proceed forward giving both the room to live peaceful life's.

I know the nation of Israel could debate this issue and get it worked out. Yet I do doubt the other party involved could even come close.

:sad

saltwn 10-27-2016 05:21 PM

Re: The truth on how the Violence came to Palestinian
 
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Originally Posted by mlurp (Post 847144)
I would say let them decide what is the proper once they let go of what happened yesterday, last week or 70 years ago.

Both have rights but a few evil people made it so bad and infused the hate.. Now they need to back it up and drop all demands admit each has made mistakes and proceed forward giving both the room to live peaceful life's.

I know the nation of Israel could debate this issue and get it worked out. Yet I do doubt the other party involved could even come close.

:sad

since the world gets dragged in on both sides no they havent resolved it in 7- years so they can lump it

Bodo 10-27-2016 11:38 PM

Re: The truth on how the Violence came to Palestinian
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 847033)
but now the jews need to stop further encroachment and the un needs to just split it and jerusalem down the middle w everyone having access to resources. or dual government

Guess we should give all of the Western US back to Mexico while we're at it.

Edit to add: Saying that the "jews" need to stop is pretty racist of you. Not all Israelis are Jews and not all Jews are Israelis. You do realize that, right?

mlurp 10-28-2016 02:08 AM

Re: The truth on how the Violence came to Palestinian
 
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Originally Posted by Bodo (Post 847201)
Guess we should give all of the Western US back to Mexico while we're at it.

Edit to add: Saying that the "jews" need to stop is pretty racist of you. Not all Israelis are Jews and not all Jews are Israelis. You do realize that, right?

Yet as a Nation they are considered of Jewish Heritage, right? After all Bodo when this topic comes up it is always this Nation vs. that group and one never
picks the few out of either group/Nation.

Also I believe salty does understand the situation in which both groups have failed to reach any accord, much less decide on the shape of the table... She knows how much Israel has given up in trying to reach a peace deal.

While the other side has given up nothing and continued to make more demands.... A :sad people IMHO

Bodo 10-28-2016 02:21 AM

Re: The truth on how the Violence came to Palestinian
 
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Originally Posted by mlurp (Post 847219)
Yet as a Nation they are considered of Jewish Heritage, right? After all Bodo when this topic comes up it is always this Nation vs. that group and one never
picks the few out of either group/Nation.

Also I believe salty does understand the situation in which both groups have failed to reach any accord, much less decide on the shape of the table... She knows how much Israel has given up in trying to reach a peace deal.

While the other side has given up nothing and continued to make more demands.... A :sad people IMHO

You're conflating the modern nation of Israel with the Jewish people. One is a political distinction. The other declared by G*d.

With the history of blatant Antisemitism that the world has, we need to be careful what words we use, need to be specific. Israeli != Jewish. Jewish != Israeli.

saltwn 10-28-2016 04:19 AM

Re: The truth on how the Violence came to Palestinian
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bodo (Post 847201)
Guess we should give all of the Western US back to Mexico while we're at it.

Edit to add: Saying that the "jews" need to stop is pretty racist of you. Not all Israelis are Jews and not all Jews are Israelis. You do realize that, right?

no but I don't see many Texans taking their pots, pans and bed roll down across the border to "expand America" and keep moving the border farther South ...so...yeah

saltwn 10-28-2016 04:25 AM

Re: The truth on how the Violence came to Palestinian
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlurp (Post 847219)
Yet as a Nation they are considered of Jewish Heritage, right? After all Bodo when this topic comes up it is always this Nation vs. that group and one never
picks the few out of either group/Nation.

Also I believe salty does understand the situation in which both groups have failed to reach any accord, much less decide on the shape of the table... She knows how much Israel has given up in trying to reach a peace deal.

While the other side has given up nothing and continued to make more demands.... A :sad people IMHO

yeah Israel negotiated with Arafat? no they didn't; those guys were war mongers on both sides. but the politics is still there preventing peace.
And Palestine is a concentration camp or apartheid.
And Israel keeps taking more and more territory.
The UN or other like unit of nations can decide for them or pull the heck out. We do need to talk with Russia and Iran to get them on board and say "We are all tired of defending each of you spoiled brats," Get over it or allies and foes are leaving and "we're taking our defense and offense with us. good luck!"

Kizzume 10-28-2016 05:02 AM

Re: The truth on how the Violence came to Palestinian
 
As it has been said, the United States stopped expanding.

Israel flat-out needs to stop expanding. I can excuse most of what Israel does to defend itself IF and only IF they stop expanding their borders. When they're expanding their borders, most of what they do is inexcusable.

The mindsets that Israel is up against is horrible, but some of it is on Israel because they won't stop taking over land and bulldozing people's homes.

As long as they absolutely stop expanding, I can accept the current borders. If they refuse to stop expanding, I would hope that some industrialized western first world countries would eventually get involved in saying "hey, that's not cool".

As bad as some of the Palestinians are being, if Israel is allowed to continue expanding, something needs to be done to relocate the Palestinians, but what country would want them, being that so many Palestinians at this juncture are at least somewhat radicalized?


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