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Conspiracy Theories Discuss The truth on how the Violence came to Palestinian at the General Discussion; Originally Posted by Kizzume As it has been said, the United States stopped expanding. Israel flat-out needs to stop expanding. ...

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Old 10-28-2016, 11:20 AM
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As it has been said, the United States stopped expanding.

Israel flat-out needs to stop expanding. I can excuse most of what Israel does to defend itself IF and only IF they stop expanding their borders. When they're expanding their borders, most of what they do is inexcusable.

The mindsets that Israel is up against is horrible, but some of it is on Israel because they won't stop taking over land and bulldozing people's homes.

As long as they absolutely stop expanding, I can accept the current borders. If they refuse to stop expanding, I would hope that some industrialized western first world countries would eventually get involved in saying "hey, that's not cool".

As bad as some of the Palestinians are being, if Israel is allowed to continue expanding, something needs to be done to relocate the Palestinians, but what country would want them, being that so many Palestinians at this juncture are at least somewhat radicalized?
Gee tell the Palestinians to accept it to. Yet they never do as they demand more and all walk away and Israel is blamed..

As you are trying to do with the above. It is all about Israel actions and never about what the other side does.

Well guess what I have shown who started the violence in mass. And they have not stopped it so what is Israel to do?

Oh yes stop expanding.. They do when at the peace table.. So the Arabs/Palestinians should stay at the peace table ans stop demanding more and settle this mess with a treaty of Peace.
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Israel has tried the land for peace thing. All that happens is the Pal Terrorists get better launching points for their rockets and more dead Israelis.

The Pals won't be happy until there is no more Israel.
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Israel has tried the land for peace thing. All that happens is the Pal Terrorists get better launching points for their rockets and more dead Israelis.

The Pals won't be happy until there is no more Israel.
And this is where we find both Israel and the Palestinians today. And I ask with the Arabs desire to end each life of any Jew, why is it that so many blame Israel for stopping the peace?

Israel has done much more to gain the peace than any Palestinian has even thought of doing.
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Gosh there are some ignorant people on this forum. How many times I have posted that Israel is fully entitled to Judea and Samaria according to international law and you lot totally ignore it in your dislike for the Jewish state. Why not concern yourself with other countries and leave Israel alone. You pick on Israel for whatever reason, when it is none of your business.
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And for those of you who want to find out more about the subject, without reading this informative book, you have no right to criticise Israel's right to Judea and Samaria.

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It doesn't even need to be that technical. The UN founded Israel. They were attacked. Israel took land from those that attacked them. Period. End of Story.

Hell, if Israel really wanted more land, they'd still have the Sinai.
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It doesn't even need to be that technical. The UN founded Israel. They were attacked. Israel took land from those that attacked them. Period. End of Story.

Hell, if Israel really wanted more land, they'd still have the Sinai.
What??????????? I believe the British gave them some land first BoBo...
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What??????????? I believe the British gave them some land first BoBo...
Well, there was the Balfour Declaration but they told the Arabs the same thing (McMahon–Hussein Correspondence). But that didn't give any land to form Israel. England could have formed Israel on their own, but failed. Instead the let the UN do it.

The French and English broke the Middle East after WW1 (Sykes-Picot) then walked away. Now they're sitting on the sidelines looking at US saying, "well what are YOU going to do to fix it?"
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Gosh there are some ignorant people on this forum. How many times I have posted that Israel is fully entitled to Judea and Samaria according to international law and you lot totally ignore it in your dislike for the Jewish state. Why not concern yourself with other countries and leave Israel alone. You pick on Israel for whatever reason, when it is none of your business.
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The Green Line is Israel's contested boundary with the Palestinian territories. Shortly after the Six-Day War of 1967, Israel extended the Jerusalem Municipality's city limits and applied its laws, jurisdiction, and administration to East Jerusalem and the surrounding area. In 1980, the Knesset passed the Jerusalem Law, declaring Jerusalem to be the "complete and united" capital of Israel. The Israeli government offered the Palestinian residents citizenship, most of whom refused, and are treated today as permanent residents under Israeli law. According to the Israeli rights organisation Hamoked, if these Palestinians live abroad for seven years, or gain citizenship or residency elsewhere, they lose their Israeli residency.

The purported annexation of East Jerusalem was condemned by the United Nations Security Council as "a violation of international law" and declared "null and void" in United Nations Security Council Resolution 478 and has not been recognized by the international community; no country has its embassy in Jerusalem. Instead, the embassies are located in Tel Aviv, whilst Jerusalem remains home to many consulates

The boundaries of a future Palestinian State, vis-a-vis Israel, are subject to ongoing negotiations in the Israel–Palestinian peace process. Israel's West Bank Wall, which encompasses almost all Israeli settlements, including all three major cities, and only a minor Palestinian population, was declared by Prime Minister Ehud Olmert as running roughly along the future borders of Israel[citation needed]. Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman proposed that the Arab-Israeli border region known as the Triangle be removed from Israeli sovereignty and transferred to the Palestinian Authority, in exchange for the border settlement blocs. The Palestinian Authority claims all of these territories (including East Jerusalem) for a future Palestinian State, and its position is supported by the Arab League in the 2002 Arab Peace Initiative which calls for the return by Israel to "the 1967 borders". While Israel has expressed desire to annex the border settlement blocs and keep East Jerusalem, its border with Gaza has largely been solidified, especially following Israel's withdrawal in 2005. Israel has not made claims to any portion Gazan territory and offered the entire area to Palestinians as part of the 2000 Camp David Summit.

At the same time, Israel has continued to claim a nominal strip on the border between the West Bank and Jordan, and between Gaza and Egypt as its border with those countries. This is viewed as a legalistic device to enable Israel to control the entry of people and materials into the Palestinian territories.


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You take the territory in a defensive war and then you're supposed to give it back? I don't get that.

Jerusalem was nothing for the Arabs 'till Israel took it.
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