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Just a place to list some "conspiracy theories" later openly acknowledged and confirmed to be historical FACT.
Just going to list a few in this post later post may have more info on various.


Operation Ajax: where the CIA orchestrated the killing of the democratically elected Iranin president Mosaddegh.

Operation Galdio: where the Cia and NATO did terrorist attacks in europe and blamed it on comunist and leftist.

MKUltra: where the gov't used LSD and other drug and techniques against citizens wills to brainwash and mind control people.

During Prohibition : some FBI agents regularly poisoned some illegal liquor with methane, formaldehyde, ammonia, arsenic, kerosene and more to make it appear that booze was in fact deadly. Many did indeed die.

Gulf war I: CIA Had a young woman Nayirah al-Sabah lie to the UN and congress about incubator babies killed by evil Iraqi soldiers.

Operation Mockingbird: CIA Funded propaganda in private media in the US and abroad. with CIA plants and friendly's in place at the major news outlets to turn public opinion in the direction it wanted/wants.

COINTELPRO: Counter Intelligence Programs, specifically those targeted at activists of almost any organization from 1956 to 1971 like MLK and Malcom X NAACP, hippes, etc. 85% of its money on attempts to subvert them. Hoover said to protect the powers that be.

Tuskegee experiments: where gov't doctors lied to men with syphilis that they were treating them but they were actually just documenting the progress of the disease.

the MAFIA: Hoover and the FBI said for decades that there was no such thing a organized crime.

Cigarette Corps and Asbestos Corps hide cancer: for decades both of those industries knew that their products caused cancer, they work in concert, and paid for false studies, did propaganda and fought regs and cajoled politicians while Americans died and they made $$$.

Iran-Contra: Secret Deals from Iran ,CIA providing drugs for money (L.A. Crack boom) to supply guns for contras under executive control.
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Nixon committed treason and prolonged the Veit-Nam War:
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...Nixon's newly revealed records show for certain that in 1968, as a presidential candidate, he ordered Anna Chennault, his liaison to the South Vietnam government, to persuade them to refuse a cease-fire being brokered by President Lyndon Johnson.

Nixon's interference with these negotiations violated President John Adams's 1797 Logan Act, banning private citizens from intruding into official government negotiations with a foreign nation...

...Nixon's sabotage of the Vietnam peace talks was confirmed by transcripts of FBI wiretaps. On November 2, 1968, LBJ received an FBI report saying Chernnault told the South Vietnamese ambassador that "she had received a message from her boss: saying the Vietnamese should "hold on, we are gonna win."...

... in 1973, Kissinger was given the Nobel Peace Prize for negotiating the same settlement he helped sabotage in 1968....

George Will Confirms Nixon's Vietnam Treason | Common Dreams |
the story also sheds light on one reason often given as to why fill-in-the-blank conspiracy can't be true.
the "but people would talk" defense.
LBJ or the Dems in the know would tell because they hated Nixon right?

"... LBJ wanted to go public with Nixon’s treason. But Clark Clifford, an architect of the CIA and a pillar of the Washington establishment, talked Johnson out of it. LBJ’s close confidant warned that the revelation would shake the foundations of the nation.
In particular, Clifford told Johnson (in a taped conversation) that “some elements of the story are so shocking in their nature that I’m wondering whether it would be good for the country to disclose the story and then possibly have [Nixon] elected. It could cast his whole administration under such doubt that I think it would be inimical to our country’s best interests.”
In other words, Clifford told LBJ that the country couldn’t handle the reality that its president was a certifiable traitor, eligible for legal execution.
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Just a place to list some "conspiracy theories" later openly acknowledged and confirmed to be historical FACT.
Just going to list a few in this post later post may have more info on various.


Operation Ajax: where the CIA orchestrated the killing of the democratically elected Iranin president Mosaddegh.

Operation Galdio: where the Cia and NATO did terrorist attacks in europe and blamed it on comunist and leftist.

MKUltra: where the gov't used LSD and other drug and techniques against citizens wills to brainwash and mind control people.

During Prohibition : some FBI agents regularly poisoned some illegal liquor with methane, formaldehyde, ammonia, arsenic, kerosene and more to make it appear that booze was in fact deadly. Many did indeed die.

Gulf war I: CIA Had a young woman Nayirah al-Sabah lie to the UN and congress about incubator babies killed by evil Iraqi soldiers.

Operation Mockingbird: CIA Funded propaganda in private media in the US and abroad. with CIA plants and friendly's in place at the major news outlets to turn public opinion in the direction it wanted/wants.

COINTELPRO: Counter Intelligence Programs, specifically those targeted at activists of almost any organization from 1956 to 1971 like MLK and Malcom X NAACP, hippes, etc. 85% of its money on attempts to subvert them. Hoover said to protect the powers that be.

Tuskegee experiments: where gov't doctors lied to men with syphilis that they were treating them but they were actually just documenting the progress of the disease.

the MAFIA: Hoover and the FBI said for decades that there was no such thing a organized crime.

Cigarette Corps and Asbestos Corps hide cancer: for decades both of those industries knew that their products caused cancer, they work in concert, and paid for false studies, did propaganda and fought regs and cajoled politicians while Americans died and they made $$$.

Iran-Contra: Secret Deals from Iran ,CIA providing drugs for money (L.A. Crack boom) to supply guns for contras under executive control.
Wasn't the uni bomber an MK Ultra guinea pig?
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Nixon committed treason and prolonged the Veit-Nam War:


the story also sheds light on one reason often given as to why fill-in-the-blank conspiracy can't be true.
the "but people would talk" defense.
LBJ or the Dems in the know would tell because they hated Nixon right?

"... LBJ wanted to go public with Nixon’s treason. But Clark Clifford, an architect of the CIA and a pillar of the Washington establishment, talked Johnson out of it. LBJ’s close confidant warned that the revelation would shake the foundations of the nation.
In particular, Clifford told Johnson (in a taped conversation) that “some elements of the story are so shocking in their nature that I’m wondering whether it would be good for the country to disclose the story and then possibly have [Nixon] elected. It could cast his whole administration under such doubt that I think it would be inimical to our country’s best interests.”
In other words, Clifford told LBJ that the country couldn’t handle the reality that its president was a certifiable traitor, eligible for legal execution.
...."
Wow didnt know that one. Makes me all the more suspicious that Reagan got the hostage release delayed.
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The Georgia Guidestones lay out the ruling elite's plan for humanity, including reducing the population to under 500,000,000. index @ theGeorgiaGuidestones.com website

If you read through the plans, you'll see that the UN's Agenda 21 fits right in with them. What Is Agenda 21? After Watching This, You May Not Want to Know | Video | TheBlaze.com
https://sustainabledevelopment.un.or...unced/agenda21
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Wasn't the uni bomber an MK Ultra guinea pig?
I hadn't heard that. I don't know.
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The Georgia Guidestones lay out the ruling elite's plan for humanity, including reducing the population to under 500,000,000. index @ theGeorgiaGuidestones.com website

If you read through the plans, you'll see that the UN's Agenda 21 fits right in with them. What Is Agenda 21? After Watching This, You May Not Want to Know | Video | TheBlaze.com
https://sustainabledevelopment.un.or...unced/agenda21
yep,
the Georgia Guide stones are weird and sorta disturbing.
but who put them up is a speculation. and any direct connections are mainly guesses at this point.

But Agenda 21 however, that is a real multi national open "conspiracy" or better said working plan to remove people from land all over the earth and urbanize the human population.

the stated reasons are for environmental good and human well being.
but it obviously implements draconian land use and living area laws. and consolidates power into unelected Mutli national groups, and makes people sheep to be by law herded by gov't into urban pens of gov't design. FOR a START.

it's a very bad agenda that is right now being put into play by "recommendations" to state and local gov'ts who put the teeth to the agenda 21 regulations.

It's all wrapped in "saving the earth" speak so it doesn't look like the orwellian mess that it really is.
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I hadn't heard that. I don't know.
yeah here Harvard and the Making of the Unabomber - The Atlantic, plus there were a few other celebrated individuals but cant think of them off hand.

good thread btw
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RMS Lusitania was carrying ammunition just as the Germans claimed. and it appears that at least the British knew about the u-boat and failed to warn the Lusitania.

the attack was a reason used to fuel Americas entry into WW1
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CIA has been involved in drug trafficking for decades.
the Kerry committee during the Iran Contra hearing brought out proof to congress. That was followed up with by the San Jose Mercury news reports by reporter Gary Webb who found evidence in court docs and eyewitness testimony from DEA agents and more. specifically the CIA set up cocaine movement from south america to the US so it'd be turned in crack by dealers. they collected cash and used some of it to fund the contras.

there's also evidence of the CIA drug running in Veit Nam during the war. search "Air America".
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