Lee Oswald a lone gunman killed JFK - Page 4

saltwn · #31 (**permalink**) 09-22-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave1

Excuse me.....??

This bullet below did not strike and pass thru two human beings.......

I wonder who planted it.....

I posted a rebuttal. Post any part and we'll discuss it. I think the rebuttal is sound.

Comet · #32 (**permalink**) 09-22-2012, 06:47 PM

Yes, Dave, the pristine bullet is only one of a gazillion things wrong with the Warren Commission report.

Dave1 · #33 (**permalink**) 09-22-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

I posted a rebuttal. Post any part and we'll discuss it. I think the rebuttal is sound.

Sorry, I don't buy that contention......

Just the fact that the bullet showed up in a stretcher at the hospital doesn't pass the smell test.....

Oh well, we'll never know....

saltwn · #34 (**permalink**) 09-22-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave1

Sorry, I don't buy that contention......

Just the fact that the bullet showed up in a stretcher at the hospital doesn't pass the smell test.....

Oh well, we'll never know....

That is really the only part that ever got my attention in the whole affair. But if you think about a piece of skull missing...

Mrs Kennedy was holding a piece of the President's skull in that hall way and walked up to a medical person and offered it to them in case it was needed. She was clearly in shock of course.
But that's near the time the bullet was found. Could have rolled right out of tha head?

mr. wonder · #35 (**permalink**) 09-22-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

That is really the only part that ever got my attention in the whole affair. But if you think about a piece of skull missing...

Mrs Kennedy was holding a piece of the President's skull in that hall way and walked up to a medical person and offered it to them in case it was needed. She was clearly in shock of course.
But that's near the time the bullet was found. Could have rolled right out of tha head?

But it would have had to come out of Connaly wouldn't it? it's the bullet that supposedly hit them both.
the bullet that passed through Kennedy and through the back(?) (or neck?). Then the ribs, right wrist, and left leg of Connally.

Below is a clip of Connaly's Dr. the day of who says that the bullet was still in his left leg after Connally's initial treatment and would be removed sometime in the near future.

Dr. Shaw- "bullet still in leg"?!?! 11/22/63- Kennedy Detail- Clint Hill+ - YouTube

saltwn · #36 (**permalink**) 09-23-2012, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. wonder

But it would have had to come out of Connaly wouldn't it? it's the bullet that supposedly hit them both.
the bullet that passed through Kennedy and through the back(?) (or neck?). Then the ribs, right wrist, and left leg of Connally.

Below is a clip of Connaly's Dr. the day of who says that the bullet was still in his left leg after Connally's initial treatment and would be removed sometime in the near future.

Dr. Shaw- "bullet still in leg"?!?! 11/22/63- Kennedy Detail- Clint Hill+ - YouTube

I think finding the bullet was extremely weird. As I stated above. What did the connely bullet look like?

mr. wonder · #37 (**permalink**) 09-23-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

I think finding the bullet was extremely weird. As I stated above. What did the connely bullet look like?

You see the problem here is the Dr said the bullet was "still in his leg" long after or near the same time someone supposedly had found it on the stretcher in the Hall shortly after Connaly was 1st taken upstairs to be treated.

Either the examining Doc was wrong or the bullet was planted or there were more than 2 bullets.

mr. wonder · #38 (**permalink**) 09-23-2012, 07:54 AM

And if the Doc was wrong there's still this.

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Audrey Bell's account regarding the bullet fragments that were removed from Connally's wrist. Although Dr. Charles Gregory said the fragments that were removed from the Governor's wrist were merely "flakes of metal" and that they weighed less than a postage stamp, that is not how Nurse Bell remembers it at all. Nurse Bell is the Parkland Hospital operating-room nurse who handled the fragments that were removed from the Governor's wrist. She insists the fragments were not merely flakes but were identifiable pieces of metal anywhere from 3 to 4 millimeters in length by 2 millimeters wide. This squares with the recollection of one of Connally's other surgeons, Dr. Robert Shaw. Interviewed for the award-winning 1988 documentary REASONABLE DOUBT: THE SINGLE-BULLET THEORY, Shaw said, "I am sure that the bullet that inflicted these wounds on Governor Connally was fragmented much more than this bullet [CE 399] shows."
There didn't seem to be any question about the wrist fragments in the first hours and days after the shooting. The Parkland Hospital operative record states that "SMALL BITS OF METAL WERE ENCOUNTERED AT VARIOUS LEVELS" of the wrist wound, and that "WHEREVER THEY WERE IDENTIFIED AND COULD BE PICKED UP WERE PICKED UP and have been submitted to the pathology department for identification and examination."
Asked if CE 399 could have been the bullet that struck Connally's wrist, Dr. Pierre Finck, one of Kennedy's autopsists, answered, "No, for the reason that there are too many fragments described in that wrist," and he based this conclusion in large part on the Parkland Hospital operative record. Dr. James Humes, the chief pathologist at the autopsy, understood the clear implications of the operative record's wording. Dr. Humes was asked if CE 399 could have been either the missile that struck the head or the one that wounded Connally's wrist. He replied in the negative and cited the Parkland operative record as the basis for his conclusion:

Mr. SPECTER. Doctor Humes, I show you a bullet which we have marked as Commission Exhibit No. 399, and may I say now that, subject to later proof, this is the missile which has been taken from the stretcher which the evidence now indicates was the stretcher occupied by Governor Connally. I move for its admission into evidence at this time.

The CHAIRMAN. It may be admitted. (The article, previously marked Commission Exhibit No. 399 for identification, was received in evidence.)

Mr. SPECTER. We have been asked by the FBI that the missile not be handled by anybody because it is undergoing further ballistic tests, and it now appears, may the record show, in a plastic case in a cotton background.
Now looking at that bullet, Exhibit 399, Doctor Humes, could that bullet have gone through or been any part of the fragment passing through President Kennedy's head in Exhibit No. 388?

Commander HUMES. I do not believe so, sir.

Mr. SPECTER. And could that missile have made the wound on Governor Connally's right wrist?

Commander HUMES. I think that that is most unlikely. May I expand on those two answers?

Mr. SPECTER. Yes, please do.

Commander HUMES. The X-rays made of the wound in the head of the late President showed fragmentations of the missile. Some fragments we recovered and turned over, as has been previously noted. Also we have X-rays of the fragment of skull which was in the region of our opinion exit wound showing metallic fragments. Also going to Exhibit 392, the report from Parkland Hospital, the following sentence referring to the examination of the wound of the wrist is found:
"Small bits of metal were encountered at various levels throughout the wound, and these were, wherever they were identified and could be picked up, picked up and submitted to the pathology department for identification and examination."
The reason I believe it most unlikely that this missile could have inflicted either of these wounds is that this missile is basically intact; its jacket appears to me to be intact, and I do not understand how it could possibly have left fragments in either of these locations. (2 H 374-375)

Dave1 · #39 (**permalink**) 09-23-2012, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwn

I think finding the bullet was extremely weird. As I stated above. What did the connely bullet look like?

The one found in the stretcher was the Connelly bullet.....

Now you see......?

john rourke · #40 (**permalink**) 10-07-2012, 04:32 PM

I slowed down the first gif that clearly shows the hole opening and closing between 316-317. That kills it right there but there's more, from none other than Stone's Jfk movie. I just looked and noticed the gape clearly in frame 319. The open gape and closing of the hole in the movie appear to be between 319-320.

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z319.jpg
Zapruder Frames - Costella Combined Edit

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