Your wriggling and squirming is avoiding a very valid couple of points... that destroy your credibility completely:

1. The absurd and silly and tin-foiled conspiracy birthers had some news at the end of that article that you missed: THE JUDGE RIGHTFULLY THREW OUT THE UTTERLY CONVOLUTED AND IMPOSSIBLE ARGUMENT OF THE WHITE HOUSE LAWYER. The case is going forward.

Bites, doesn't it.

2. Obama himself swore in front of the whole nation that the HANDOUTS GIVEN TO THE PRESS AND ALSO POSTED ON THE WH WEBSITE WERE GENUINE. <-- this is fraud felony.

Here is (in case you have never seen it) what Obama told the nation was his genuine long form BC:



But... but... Everyone (you included) know the above is a forgery. And yet, if you take the time to read that right wing HuffPo, you will see that the green bullsh!t above is what Obama handed out to the Press at the time of the press conference as genuine.

You are in a really sticky place.

It IS a forgery <-- libs originally snarked at that... now they admit it. After being beaten over the head with the facts.

It IS what Obama swore was his genuine birth certificate, and he handed copies out to the Press at that conference.

How do you spin that, libs?

Oh... I know: Attack ME. OK. Check. Been done.

Ignore the info. OK. Check. Been done.

Derogate the overview of the info ("conspiracy"). OK. Check. Been done.

But the case is going forward, the WH legal counsel is admitting (as if that were necessary!!) that what Obama handed to the Press corp is a lie.

Tricky as hell.

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Since this thread has been moved to conspiracy theories, I'll quit responding. No sense in wasting my time trying to explain to the loons why they're wrong on this issue. SCOUTS has already done that.

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I recommend you quote what she actually said, because what is REALLY going on here is that the WEB-SITE is making that claim.
Bet you dollars to donuts she did NOT say that.

Here's a question for you Unca...
If I can prove she did NOT say that, are you willing to recognize that the web-site you quoted is a piece of crap?

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Also Hill actually won the case.

The judge didn't feel the case was even in the right venue. Arpuzzo's other claim that Obama had to be born from two naturalized parents was judged incorrect by precedent. All that was left was the claim the document had been photoshopped in layers.

Hill did not "admit the birth cerificate was a forgery", she only prevented it from being offered into evidence. Any good lawyer would do that. It's common sense as strategy. If the document doesn't meet the rules of evidence why bring in armies of experts from either side in to examine the document, and risk the possibility your expert might be judged less credible than their expert. Why risk attaching credibility to a case that probably shouldn't even have been sitting before that particular judge?

Not even Arpuzzo claims Hill "admitted it was a forgery". All he claimed was...

Judge Rules Against Obama Objectors - Red Bank-Shrewsbury, NJ Patch

One has to suspect not even Arpuzzo thought he could actually win that case. What seems more likely is it was only brought before the judge to bring attention to the fact they believe the document is a forgery.

The fact that a Google News search turns up the vast majority of hits on World Nut Daily is indication enough of the claim's speciousness.

You think Fox wouldn't be all over this if there were anything to it?

Yawn...

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Yup. Nothing to see... except that Obama's lawyers are trying to suppress the video of the public meeting:

Obama Lawyers Want the Video of the NJ Obama Ballot Access Challenge Public Hearing Pulled and Suppressed

I heard this morning that the Obama lawyers are trying to suppress the videos of the NJ Obama Ballot Access Challenge public hearing. So I called and spoke with Attorney Mario Apuzzo and he confirmed that Obama’s lawyers have called him and told him they are planning to take legal action to get the videos of the NJ Ballot Access Challenge Public Hearing pulled and suppressed. What is the Obama side ashamed of and doesn’t want the world to see. Could it be that their Obama “emperor has no clothing on”, i.e., has no known conclusively proven true legal identity clothing/papers to show the world which Attorney Mario Apuzzo forced them to admit to and stipulate to in the NJ public hearing? Obama’s side obviously does not want people to see this video. Watch it yourself at the below links and learn why.

In these videos, the Obama side even wants to allow Mickey Mouse to run for President. To Obama and his lawyers the U.S. Constitution and presidential eligibility clause in Article II is a joke. You can see that in Part II at about 40 minutes into that segment. It was interesting that Obama’s lawyer chose and mentioned Mickey Mouse running for President and making a mockery of the election process in her statements in the hearing as Mickey Mouse was a contributor to Obama’s campaign in 2008 as part of the untraceable debit and credit card contributions that Obama accepted online, a good chunk of it alleged to have been illegally provided to Obama operatives from foreign sources.

Full Video of the NJ Obama Ballot Access Challenge Public Hearing. Under NJ state law, video taping of public hearings is permitted. Now the Obama legal team wants to suppress these videos. Everyone should download a copy of these videos onto their own personal computer such that the Obama side cannot make these videos disappear from the eyes and ears of the American electorate who can now see the shameful games the Obama lawyers play in court to avoid revealing Obama’s lack of any conclusive proof as to his true legal identity. See this channel link for the videos of this public hearing and/or via the other embedded links below: Haggz51 - YouTube


http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogs...ma-ballot.html

Oh... for MrWrite: (*Yawn*)

Defend the indefensible. I note that STILL no one has addressed the felony fraud part.

One more thing: Please, libs, do not forget the also-outed-as-total-fraud SS document. You know, where a carelessly, sloppily cut rubber stamp was furgled together to fake (and everyone agrees: FAKE!) that document.

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Snopes discusses the claim in this thread.
Shows it to be a lie.
snopes.com: Obama Officially Ineligible

I have challenged for a DIRECT QUOTE of Alexandra Hill where she supposedly claims it's a forgery.
Without surprise, no response.

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You know what? I don't even really give a crap at this point, if I ever did.
We know for a fact that Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was born in Kansas in 1942.
Who gives a flying fart where Obama was born? He's still a US citizen, since his mother was.

Not true. If BOTH parents are US citizens, then you would be correct. But if only ONE was, then citizenship is determined by location of birth.

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Actually that's not true either. If the mother is a US citizen, the child is a US citizen as long as that citizenship is claimed. If the father is a US citizen, the calculation is a bit more complex.

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