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pjohns 09-05-2021 12:28 PM

Climate change and the left's narrative
 
Some people are now blaming the recent weather disasters--including, of course, Hurricane Ida--on climate change.

Of course, climate change is a fact. But that begs the question: Is it actually man made (i.e. Anthropogenic Global Warming--or AGW, for short)--or is it merely natural, and cyclical?

Interestingly, even those who claim the former (and often vociferously) want only us "little people" to pay the price, for change: Why, we should give up our automobiles; but those who scream the loudest are unwilling to give up their private jets.

And, of course, it is only in the US that we--the middle class, that is--are asked to make this enormous sacrifice. China, on the other hand--which has far more people than the US--has labeled itself a "developing country," and has therefore immunized itself against any need for a reciprocal sacrifice.

Let us just say that those who wish to see the US reduced to Third World status are enjoying themselves very much, with their virtue signaling...

Constant_Slothrop 09-05-2021 02:23 PM

Re: Climate change and the left's narrative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pjohns (Post 1008521)
Some people are now blaming the recent weather disasters--including, of course, Hurricane Ida--on climate change.

Of course, climate change is a fact. But that begs the question: Is it actually man made (i.e. Anthropogenic Global Warming--or AGW, for short)--or is it merely natural, and cyclical?

Interestingly, even those who claim the former (and often vociferously) want only us "little people" to pay the price, for change: Why, we should give up our automobiles; but those who scream the loudest are unwilling to give up their private jets.

And, of course, it is only in the US that we--the middle class, that is--are asked to make this enormous sacrifice. China, on the other hand--which has far more people than the US--has labeled itself a "developing country," and has therefore immunized itself against any need for a reciprocal sacrifice.

Let us just say that those who wish to see the US reduced to Third World status are enjoying themselves very much, with their virtue signaling...

Actually, "is it man made" is the wrong question. The proper question is can changes in human activity mitigate the impacts of climate change. And, it is very clear that they can, primarily through reducing the uses of fossil fuels for electric power generation and transportation.

Manitou 09-06-2021 11:49 AM

Re: Climate change and the left's narrative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Constant_Slothrop (Post 1008522)
Actually, "is it man made" is the wrong question. The proper question is can changes in human activity mitigate the impacts of climate change. And, it is very clear that they can, primarily through reducing the uses of fossil fuels for electric power generation and transportation.

For one thing, those concerned people can get their asses over to India and China and other cesspools, and command those dickheads there to stop their pollution.

pjohns 09-06-2021 01:40 PM

Re: Climate change and the left's narrative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Manitou (Post 1008535)
For one thing, those concerned people can get their asses over to India and China and other cesspools, and command those dickheads there to stop their pollution.

The left, if pressed on the matter, will opine that we Americans should act as the "moral leaders" of the world--as if our own actions would be emulated by others...

saltwn 09-06-2021 04:54 PM

Re: Climate change and the left's narrative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Manitou (Post 1008535)
For one thing, those concerned people can get their asses over to India and China and other cesspools, and command those dickheads there to stop their pollution.

or get exxon to quit mucking up the world

saltwn 09-06-2021 04:56 PM

Re: Climate change and the left's narrative
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pjohns (Post 1008568)
The left, if pressed on the matter, will opine that we Americans should act as the "moral leaders" of the world--as if our own actions would be emulated by others...

so since you speak for pro and con there's no debate here?

pjohns 09-06-2021 07:31 PM

Re: Climate change and the left's narrative
 
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Originally Posted by saltwn (Post 1008582)
so since you speak for pro and con there's no debate here?

Exactly what debate would you desire?

And do you find it to be ethically indefensible to take a nuanced view--rather than to stand strongly for one position or the other (well, really not the "other" one)?

CindyB 10-01-2021 12:47 PM

Re: Climate change and the left's narrative
 
https://www.foxnews.com/us/hurricane...59501be8198c9f


Quote:

Hurricane Ida recovery: Louisiana local leaders say FEMA ‘missing in action’ as parish pleads for help

Jefferson Parish residents say they're still waiting for FEMA assistance one month after Hurricane Ida destroyed their homes


Dog Man 10-01-2021 01:41 PM

Re: Climate change and the left's narrative
 
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Originally Posted by CindyB (Post 1009767)

FEMA was 3 days late under Bush, and he was attacked relentlessly because of it.

I guess when Democrats are in charge, they are not responsible for such petty things.


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