Okay a slightly different angle on the effects C.C. will bring.

The arid US midwest just crept 140 miles east thanks to climate change

Quartz, Chase Purdy... 1 day ago


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Tractors on a farm in the US midwest

There’s a line that stretches down North America, singeing into the the continent a border that separates an arid west from a humid east. And it’s on the move.

Called “the 100th Meridian,” the line slices through Canada, the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas, and eastern Mexico. It exists because the Rocky Mountain range blocks moisture that would sweep into the Great Plains from the Pacific Ocean, while storms in the Atlantic Ocean push moisture into the US midwest, bumping against more moisture that barrels north and slightly east from the Gulf of Mexico during the summer.

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This is just one more in a long list of people (the articles author) trying to blame mankind for something that has been happening since the earth had a climate. We have only known about the climate in the great plains for less than 200 years, but somehow, that is long enough to say what the climate should be for all time.

Question: Where was this 100th meridian 2000 years ago? 10,000 years ago? I bet this guy could not answer that because he has no way of knowing. My guess is that it is a line that has always been moving. This guy is making the assumption that it needs to stay stationary and then blames mankind for it's movement.

I will say this, I bet that 20,000 years ago it was no where near where it is now. I can say that knowing that about 20,000 years ago that region was covered with a sheet of ice. And what made that ice melt? I bet it wasn't cave men driving SUV's.

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Deserts grow and shrink like glaciers.

140 miles isn't that much in Global terms. What makes it Climate Change? Could it not be just an oscillation?

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Since there are petrified logs 5 feet in diameter laying around the Midwest, for sure the climate was different.

What is a theory? An educated guess.

My point is that the climate is in a constant state of change and has been long before mankind began driving SUV's. The point of the article was yet another attempt to pin any current climate change on mankind's use of fossil fuels and to elicit a reaction to reject further dependence upon fossil fuels. I was simply pointing out the fallacies of his conclusion.

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Not my understanding. But if so, so what? 150 years isn't even a pimple on the earth's age.

So the Earth's climate change is now a result of mankind while the previous billion or so years was due to something else? Or am I misreading your post?

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If something is going to destroy mankind any time soon, it won't be man. It will be nature. Yellowstone is currently our hot spot, and it's not a question of if, but when, Yellowstone will blow. The US and much of Canada will be uninhabitable for thousands of years. There are any number of similar situations under the ocean, which will raise temperatures by tens of degrees. Objects the size of football fields float randomly around space, and they can and have hit the earth.

Not a dam thing we can do about any if it.