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Well this isn't great for the environment. not good at all. Once again people are losing most every thing they have gained over the years.

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Wildfires in Southern California force thousands to flee

Yahoo News Photo Staff•December 5, 2017

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wildfires...150557215.html
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Well this isn't great for the environment. not good at all. Once again people are losing most every thing they have gained over the years.

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Wildfires in Southern California force thousands to flee

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/wildfires...150557215.html
They will probably find that these were started by some crazy lunatic like the last ones.
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Is it true that environmentalists will not allow the state to clear the tinder from the forests? Is it because they want to protect some wildlife?
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Is it true that environmentalists will not allow the state to clear the tinder from the forests? Is it because they want to protect some wildlife?
I heard about that almost 10 years ago.. If it's true, then it is obvious the life of the wildlife is more important than the habitats of humans.
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California has massive wildfires every year. And has been having them for thousands of years, at least according to the geological records.
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Actually that is because we don't let fires burn to protect people and property. who the hell you think is going to weed millions of acres?
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Is it true that environmentalists will not allow the state to clear the tinder from the forests?
That is only partly true. The environmentalists do what they can to prevent the state from doing "controlled burns" which can remove some of the fuel (tinder, underbrush) when an accidental fire starts. They also try to prevent the rural homeowners and land developers from clearing "natural" tinder/underbrush.
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Is it because they want to protect some wildlife?
Much of it is to protect claimed wildlife habitat, some of it is because the environmentalists want to keep the natural land/plant life undisturbed looking.

In the foothills and mountains it is kind of a catch-22 situation. The plant life keeps the dirt from turning into a mudslide during the years that CA gets above normal rainfall. On the other side, the plant life is great fuel for the years that CA gets droughts and a fire starts.
It's a double edged sword. With the fires that have occurred this year, much of that plant life is now gone. If they get heavy rains this winter, we will be reading about mudslides in CA in the same areas that the fires were.
This is a pattern as old as CA history.
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California has massive wildfires every year. And has been having them for thousands of years, at least according to the geological records.
Do you know why the CA redwood trees grow so massive and for so long?
It's because redwoods 'poison' the soil around them. Other plants that would make good fuel for a fire find it hard to live in redwood forests. Mostly, just ferns and some ivy grow around redwood groves. Ferns and ivy are nothing like scrub-brush, oak, madrone, mesquite or other nice forest fire fuel. Redwoods survive.

I learned that from my high school biology teacher and observed it first hand whilst growing up in central CA.
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Actually that is because we don't let fires burn to protect people and property. who the hell you think is going to weed millions of acres?
The state will not even allow people to clear their own forested properties. I think that is stupid. But then I don't live in Calif. Maybe it makes sense to you folks.
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Well this isn't great for the environment. not good at all. Once again people are losing most every thing they have gained over the years.

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They could use some rain.
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