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Old 11-15-2017, 10:14 AM
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OH! The melodrama. I already contributed something. And my prior post was in response to the whine of another poster. Pay attention. Do you believe vegetable eaters eat animals every day, like it or not?
If their diet does not include dairy products or processed foods of any sort, organically grown crops not fertilized by any animal manure, I would say the chances of consuming something containing an animal product would be slim.

We could get into the minutia of what is contained in the water or rainwater used to fertilize the plants, or the chemical makeup of the soil used to grow the plants, but were you really considering it?
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Red beans and rice provide all that a person needs in the way of nutrition. To heck with that every day. I want a cheeseburger occasionally.
Mmmmmmmmm, Vigo red beans and rice with sweet potatoes.
That was one of my standard veghead meals.
I think some of the meat analogs out there truly did taste "meaty".
Lightlife Smart Dogs taste real!
Morningstar Grillers ain't bad either.

All that said, I missed bacon, steaks and all the other good things most people consume, hopefully in moderation with a lot of whole grains, vegs and fruit.

One last note, there is no way in heck one can turn Seitan into remotely tasting like bacon. Trust me, I tried lol
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:23 AM
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If their diet does not include dairy products or processed foods of any sort, organically grown crops not fertilized by any animal manure, I would say the chances of consuming something containing an animal product would be slim.

We could get into the minutia of what is contained in the water or rainwater used to fertilize the plants, or the chemical makeup of the soil used to grow the plants, but were you really considering it?
I aam not talking about non-activist "vegans" or vegetarians. I am referring to the IN-YOUR-FACE types who want to thump their eating lifestyle into omnivores. They eat gelatin, derived from animal products, while they tell you with a straight face that it is synthetically made, and no animal died to have it made. Never mind the millions of tiny microscopic animals consumed by other bigger animals, humans included. Use your imagination to see how "vegans" do eat animal protein all the time.

As a side note, does anybody remember the person who said that she could not eat any animal that was alive before it was killed?
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As a side note, does anybody remember the person who said that she could not eat any animal that was alive before it was killed?
Who said that?
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Who said that?
Well, I was trying to find out who did.
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Well, I was trying to find out who did.
Google was of no help hehe..
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Google was of no help hehe..
I think she was talking about the cooking of crabs or lobsters, and she meant to say that she could not eat any animal that was still alive before it was cooked. But the word "killed" instead of "cooked" appeared in the quote. I can't find it anymore. This was about 8 to 10 years ago, if I remember correctly.

Anyway back to the herbivores.
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I aam not talking about non-activist "vegans" or vegetarians. I am referring to the IN-YOUR-FACE types who want to thump their eating lifestyle into omnivores. They eat gelatin, derived from animal products, while they tell you with a straight face that it is synthetically made, and no animal died to have it made. Never mind the millions of tiny microscopic animals consumed by other bigger animals, humans included. Use your imagination to see how "vegans" do eat animal protein all the time.

As a side note, does anybody remember the person who said that she could not eat any animal that was alive before it was killed?
According to my Vegan relative, those that are serious about the practice, don't eat gelatin. They have their own lines of food that have very strict guidelines, just like Celiac people do, or Kosher Jews.

Next time an activist type gets in your face, vegan or other, try saying 'while I appreciate your enthusiasm for your dedication to X, it is not my personal preference and would prefer to not be lectured.'

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https://www.ecowatch.com/vegan-envir...509383659.html




I've known for awhile ditching cows and pigs was good for the environment.

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I've never figured out the advantages of vegan. Apparently some people think it's a good idea to refuse the tasty parts of cows and chickens and consume the not so tasty parts, the eggs, milk and cheese. The Thais and Cambodians eat almost hatched eggs. Are they meat or eggs?

Vegetarian I get. Vegan not so much. Anyway, aren't cows and chickens just nature's vegetable processing machines? And if we eat cows and pigs aren't we just processing cows into plant digestible animals?
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She typed them as super anal. Matbe they just think it's healthier. Maybe healthy types.
I have no doubt they believe it is healthier, but that doesn't change the fact that every single vegan I've met has been anal. I'll give you an example:

Last spring I attended a gathering in nearby NC that was promoted as a sacred fire circle. I love events like this because I love fire, love ritual, and love to drum and sing, which happens a lot at at fire circles. It started with a pot luck, which is also common at events like this, and that is when I learned that this wasn't the group for me.

It turned out that I was the only non-vegan present, and here we get to the anal part: before we ate, we went around the room and each person had to name every ingredient that was in each dish they brought! I've attended many a pot luck, and many had vegans and vegetarians present, but I've never ever seen it required that people had to name every ingredient in what they brought. Of coursed no one ate my pasta salad because it had - HORRORS - mayonnaise in it.

More anal vegan stuff: my extremely anal sister-in-law became vegan years ago, and my equally anal brother became one a couple of years ago. Last year I wanted to get my Penn State fan brother a Nittany Lion scarf and gloves, and when I asked his wife if he already had them, she said they could NOT be made of wool; it could only be acrylic.

I've attended a sheep shearing where I saw that the sheep are not harmed in any way, and they were very active and happy afterward to have that heavy coat removed, so there's no reason to avoid wool, other than the fact that it is - HORRORS AGAIN - an ANIMAL PRODUCT.

Of course I haven't met every vegan, but it is a fact that every single one I've met has been a very anal person, and BTW that is an observation, not an attack. I find vegans annoying, but of course they have every right to avoid foods they don't want, and I have a right to my opinion about anal people.
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