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Old 11-11-2017, 06:17 AM
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A small amount of research of your The Hill, not Joshua Tree, site, indicates that the posts are attributed to Badlands, not Joshua Tree, and were posted by an employee not authorized to make the post. They have since been taken down. I found no mention of this on either park site. Undoubtedly the reason for the headline Official National Park account rather than naming the site.

Rebecca is a reporter heavily into Environmentalist Whacko stories and theories.

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trump admin just claimed the same thing
but I know you hate the gov't so...
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trump admin just claimed the same thing
but I know you hate the gov't so...
Please link something to something. Maybe then I will have some idea what you are talking about.

I addressed the OP and its author. Which didn't address anything Trump. Nothing more. Post something about Trump I'll look into it if I feel so inclined.
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At one time there was "overwhelming consensus" that the earth was the center of the universe. Turned out to be horsesh*t, just like the claim that global climate change is man made.
I always listen to the local weather and they always have the warmest temp and coldest temp recorded for that day. Most of the extremes were 60-90 years ago. Back when there were far fewer people on earth, and far less cars.

How can someone believe that a mild climate is the norm? When everything that is happening now has happened before. Many, Many times.
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Poppycock.

There, I am now the official pin head.
Why do some want to stay in the dark ages? WTF is the point of always denying?
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The right wants to be fools. You can't change their minds. They are responsible for nothing. They want to trash the country and remove clean water rules. If the right is not controlled by industry I don't know who is. They always support whatever industry thinks is best. Whether it's trashing our lands and waters or making it harder for Americans to take companies to court they always side with business. The funny thing is this worship gives them nothing back in return. But they are hooked.
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The right wants to be fools. You can't change their minds. They are responsible for nothing. They want to trash the country and remove clean water rules. If the right is not controlled by industry I don't know who is. They always support whatever industry thinks is best. Whether it's trashing our lands and waters or making it harder for Americans to take companies to court they always side with business. The funny thing is this worship gives them nothing back in return. But they are hooked.
OK, so what would you like the right to do? Should we do what all the believers are doing?

Should we give up all things made from fossil fuel like the believers?

Should we give up our vehicles and ride bikes like all the believers?

Why is the main focus on deniers? Shouldn't the believers be showing us how it's done? Shouldn't they be walking the walk and showing us all how to clean the air?

We are already working on Solar power, Wind power, Hydro electric power.
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The right wants to be fools. You can't change their minds. They are responsible for nothing. They want to trash the country and remove clean water rules. If the right is not controlled by industry I don't know who is. They always support whatever industry thinks is best. Whether it's trashing our lands and waters or making it harder for Americans to take companies to court they always side with business. The funny thing is this worship gives them nothing back in return. But they are hooked.
The left wants no jobs, poverty that goes with it, redistribution of wealth for the poor.... They hate anyone who makes money on the right. The only industry they can stand it owned by left wingers.

The left wants those government lands people less, and barren. They have an idiotic bent on restoring the lands to there former glory say before White men came to be here. Racist pigs.

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OK, so what would you like the right to do? Should we do what all the believers are doing?

Should we give up all things made from fossil fuel like the believers?

Should we give up our vehicles and ride bikes like all the believers?

Why is the main focus on deniers? Shouldn't the believers be showing us how it's done? Shouldn't they be walking the walk and showing us all how to clean the air?

We are already working on Solar power, Wind power, Hydro electric power.
Actually the right fights all suggestions. It's like it pisses them off to have to be responsible. You cheer when they give public land to mining and fracking companies. You cheer when they cut regulations meant to keep the environment cleaner. You cheer when Trump says he is going to bring back coal. Do you cheer when a dog takes a dump on the carpet? Makes me wonder. I know you love public lands and use them often. Don't you hate seeing those "No Trespassing" signs go up? I know I do. We are here to preserve for future generations. In fact it started with a Republican named Teddy.
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Why do some want to stay in the dark ages? WTF is the point of always denying?
Maybe because I don't believe that mankind has any measurable effect on a naturally occurring cycle, and that taxing it won't stop it?

You may call it 'the dark ages', but any number of people understand that history shows this planet has had measurable temperature fluctuations since the day it was formed.

I support doing as much as one can to reduce their foot print ecologically - recycle, reduce waste, recycle nature to nature, for the general health of us all.

I think with logic and common sense, not emotional based decisions for the benefit of a taxing authority.
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GottaGo;917539]Maybe because I don't believe that mankind has any measurable effect on a naturally occurring cycle
Right. If it's naturally occuring we don't.
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You may call it 'the dark ages', but any number of people understand that history shows this planet has had measurable temperature fluctuations since the day it was formed.
So, Who is talking about natural events? We are talking about man made changes.

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I support doing as much as one can to reduce their foot print ecologically - recycle, reduce waste, recycle nature to nature, for the general health of us all.
Just not taxes right? Do you support our country investing in new technologies? China is and they are kicking our asses and will own the future. You like that?

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I think with logic and common sense, not emotional based decisions for the benefit of a taxing authority.
[/QUOTE]How about we use science instead of your "Belief"? At the start of this post you said you don't believe. This isn't a faith based idea and you are not a scientist except on the internet all you right wingers are inst-scientists.
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