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Report: Climate Change, Unchecked, Will Cost U.S. Billions

The Government Accountability Office report urges the White House to see climate change through an economic lens.

By Alexa Lardieri, Staff Writer |Oct. 24, 2017, at 11:14 a.m.



A new federal report released Tuesday warns that inaction on climate change will cost the U.S. billions of dollars and urges President Donald Trump to avoid economic catastrophe by taking immediate action.

The study by the Government Accountability Office, a nonpartisan arm of Congress, states that an Office of Budget and Management study shows extreme weather and fire events, intensified by the changing climate, have cost the country $350 billion over the last decade, and the nation faces even higher costs if nothing is done.

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Shorter winter points toward climate change...

Winter's Arrival, Departure Dates Reflect Changing Climate, Scientists Say
October 28, 2017 | WASHINGTON Winter is coming ... later. And it's leaving ever earlier.
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Across the United States, the year's first freeze has been arriving further and further into the calendar, according to more than a century of measurements from weather stations nationwide. Scientists say it is yet another sign of the changing climate, and that it has good and bad consequences for the nation. There could be more fruits and vegetables and also more allergies and pests. "I'm happy about it," said Karen Duncan of Streator, Illinois. Her flowers are in bloom because she's had no frost this year yet, just as she had none last year at this time, either. On the other hand, she said just last week it was too hot and buggy to go out in late October, near Chicago.


Sun rays spill through a gap between the clouds and the White Mountains as the skies begin to clear above Bartlett, N.H., Sept. 22, 2017. The first weekend of autumn in the area was unusually warm and across the nation, the year's first freeze has been arriving further and further into the calendar.

The trend of ever later first freezes appears to have started around 1980, according to an analysis by The Associated Press of data from 700 weather stations across the U.S. going back to 1895 compiled by Ken Kunkel, a meteorologist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's National Centers for Environmental Information. To look for nationwide trends, Kunkel compared the first freeze from each of the 700 stations to the station's average for the 20th century. Some parts of the country experience earlier or later freezes every year, but on average freezes are coming later.

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The average first freeze over the last 10 years, from 2007 to 2016, is a week later than the average from 1971 to 1980, which is before Kunkel said the trend became noticeable. This year, about 40 percent of the Lower 48 states had a freeze as of October 23, compared with 65 percent in a normal year, according to Jeff Masters, meteorology director of the private service Weather Underground. Duncan's flowers should be dead by now. According to data from the weather station near her in Ottawa, Illinois, the average first freeze for the 20th century was October 15. The normal from 1981 to 2010 based on NOAA computer simulations was October 19. Since 2010, the average first freeze is on October 26. Last year, the first freeze in Ottawa came on Nov. 12.


Morning dew covers berries in Bartlett, N.H., Sept. 18, 2017. Despite forecasts for brilliant foliage throughout the Northeast this year, longtime leaf watchers said the leaves this fall were dull and weeks behind schedule in their turn from green to the brilliant hues of autumn.

Last year was "way off the charts" nationwide, Kunkel said. The average first freeze was two weeks later than the 20th century average, and the last frost of spring was nine days earlier than normal. Overall the United States freeze season of 2016 was more than a month shorter than the freeze season of 1916. It was most extreme in the Pacific Northwest. Oregon's freeze season was 61 days shorter than normal. Global warming has helped push the first frosts later, Kunkel and other scientists said. Also at play, though, are natural short-term changes in air circulation patterns, but they, too, may be influenced by man-made climate change, they said. This shrinking freeze season is what climate scientists have long predicted, said University of Oklahoma meteorology professor Jason Furtado.

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Only climate change worriers would ever take one or two years of a late first frost, and deduce that the global warming will doom us all to famine and death.

Statistics are not in their favor either. Anyone familiar with that subject would recognize that we have a 4 billion year old system with empirical data for maybe 150 years. Then we have some indirect evidence of temps for maybe 200 years before that. That is not nearly enough data, and making up data is now the climate changers only path..

Not nearly enough to say much of anything about a 4.5 billion year old system. So I sleep just fine at night. No worries at all.

This is all about taxing and controlling economies of wealthy countries. It is all about making the so called mature economies giving into those of so called developing countries. But the left wingers are all aboard with this issue, as taxation and control are what they are all about.

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Winter's Arrival, Departure Dates Reflect Changing Climate, Scientists Say
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Hmmm. We are having our first freeze this evening. They are expecting 23 degrees. Our normal first frost date is November 15.

If we (the USA) have shorter winters, that means field food production will have longer seasons.

Hmmmm.

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Hmmm. We are having our first freeze this evening. They are expecting 23 degrees. Our normal first frost date is November 15.

If we (the USA) have shorter winters, that means field food production will have longer seasons.

Hmmmm.

The faster 'someone' demands a response, the more likely there is something you should take a closer look at.

Hummmmm, would not your first freeze date coming a bit early mean that winter would be that much longer, GottaGo.
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Hummmmm, would not your first freeze date coming a bit early mean that winter would be that much longer, GottaGo.
Indeed it would. But Walt's article said we are having shorter winters.....

If climate change is a thing (and actually it is, just not in the way some doom sayers think) then winters would be shorter, not longer.
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Indeed it would. But Walt's article said we are having shorter winters.....

If climate change is a thing (and actually it is, just not in the way some doom sayers think) then winters would be shorter, not longer.
Agreed. Canadian Wheat farmers have benefited from climate change.

Thing is, futile attempts to fight climate change will cost $Trillions, not $billions.
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Hypothetical questions.

Suppose climate change was causing the world to cool.

Would the same people that are paranoid about global warning advocate that the world increase its use of fossil fuels to combat global cooling?

Would global cooling cost the U.S. billions?

Would global cooling be better or worse for plant and animal life on earth?
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Hypothetical questions.

Suppose climate change was causing the world to cool.

Would the same people that are paranoid about global warning advocate that the world increase its use of fossil fuels to combat global cooling?

Would global cooling cost the U.S. billions?

Would global cooling be better or worse for plant and animal life on earth?
Gradual changes either way permit plant and animal life to adjust, and as plants that require high temps experience cooling, may or may not survive, but other plants may flourish.

Most perennial plants require cold temps to 'reset' before they bloom and produce. Some crop seed require refrigeration (cold stratification) before germination.

Unless this planet were to make a sudden and extreme change in temperatures, humans and plants will adjust. And no, it would not cost 'billions' or 'trillions'.
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Hummmmm, would not your first freeze date coming a bit early mean that winter would be that much longer, GottaGo.
No. it would mean that the earth's weather changes over the years. This is a given. Weather changes. So does climate. Both locally and worldwide. Both have happened long before man ever became a factor.
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