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Well this will make two biggies to hit and rain in big damage.. That is if what is predicted actually happens. And most think Irma, will do a lot of damage..

Any suggestions, thoughts or opinions on why these storms are getting worst?
I know the ocean surface is about 2 degrees warmer. Which effects the intensity.
Might there be other factors? Like why is the ocean 2 degrees warmer

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Hurricane Irma's damage could be the largest ever in the U.S., Barclays predicts

FOX Business News; Jade Scipioni. 5 hrs ago


Barclays (NYSE:BCS) research said Tuesday that incoming Category 5 storm, Hurricane Irma, which is expected to hit Florida later this week or early next week, could be the largest ever in insured damage in the U.S., topping the record currently held by Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

"Given the potential magnitude of this storm as well as the potential to impact a highly populated area, we think Irma's insured damage in Florida could be the largest ever in the U.S. perhaps equivalent to Hurricane Katrina," Barclays' Jay Gelb wrote Tuesday.

"In a worst case scenario, catastrophe modelers AIR Worldwide and Karen Clark and Co. have estimated a repeat of the 1926 Miami hurricane could result in $125-130 billion of insured damage,” Gelb added.

According to the National Hurricane Center, Irma became the strongest hurricane on record in the Atlantic basin outside of the Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico, with winds topping 175 mph...............................................
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At this site for the above news story there are several other related articles to view.. Sorry I forgot to mention them above.

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At this site for the above news story there are several other related articles to view.. Sorry I forgot to mention them above.

Hurricane Irma's damage could be the largest ever in the U.S., Barclays predicts
looking at the data in articles it's hard for me to see what number makes that so
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U mean the total excepted costs... Heck some of the big Stocks are betting this is going to be a bad one..

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"In a worst case scenario, catastrophe modelers AIR Worldwide and Karen Clark and Co. have estimated a repeat of the 1926 Miami hurricane could result in $125-130 billion of insured damage."

Trump might need to budget or these storms.


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Well this will make two biggies to hit and rain in big damage.. That is if what is predicted actually happens. And most think Irma, will do a lot of damage..

Any suggestions, thoughts or opinions on why these storms are getting worst?
I know the ocean surface is about 2 degrees warmer. Which effects the intensity.
Might there be other factors? Like why is the ocean 2 degrees warmer


Hurricane Irma's damage could be the largest ever in the U.S., Barclays predicts
Lurpy, you make two opposing statements.

Irma's damage is said to be the most costly ever.

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Hurricane Irma's damage could be the largest ever in the U.S., Barclays predicts.

Fact is the damage from Irma at present is mostly none.

Nor is Irma the worst ever as other headlines have stated.

We should be getting prepared but not in panic mode.

But as to thoughts? The ocean is 2 degrees warmer than what? The ocean has been 2 degrees warmer, 2 degrees colder, and 2 degrees stay the same over millions of years. Nothing has changed.

I pointed out that these storms are not necessarily getting worse. There have been numerous hurricanes at least as bad. Recorded history in terms of wind apparently has to do with our ability to measure wind velocity. 2 listed at over the Irma projected 185 MPH.

Damage too is the product of more than the hurricane force. Other factors such as the increased population and buildings along the coast is a major factor in damage costs. New Orleans flooded for millions of years with no damage before some idiot decided it was a good idea to build a huge city 12 feet below sea level in the flood plain.

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Lurpy, you make two opposing statements.

Irma's damage is said to be the most costly ever.

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Hurricane Irma's damage could be the largest ever in the U.S., Barclays predicts.

FACT is I didn't make either statement jimbo. So take it up with the damn author of the news article..

Fact is the damage from Irma at present is mostly none.

Nor is Irma the worst ever as other headlines have stated.

We should be getting prepared but not in panic mode.

But as to thoughts? The ocean is 2 degrees warmer than what? The ocean has been 2 degrees warmer, 2 degrees colder, and 2 degrees stay the same over millions of years. Nothing has changed.

I pointed out that these storms are not necessarily getting worse. There have been numerous hurricanes at least as bad. Recorded history in terms of wind apparently has to do with our ability to measure wind velocity. 2 listed at over the Irma projected 185 MPH.

Damage too is the product of more than the hurricane force. Other factors such as the increased population and buildings along the coast is a major factor in damage costs. New Orleans flooded for millions of years with no damage before some idiot decided it was a good idea to build a huge city 12 feet below sea level in the flood plain.

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FEMA may run out of funds on Friday...

FEMA may run out of funds on Friday: senators
September 7, 2017 - The U.S. Federal Emergency Management Agency will run out of disaster assistance funding on Friday unless Congress approves more money, two Florida senators warned on Thursday.
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As Hurricane Irma barrels through the Caribbean on its way to an expected landfall on Florida on Sunday, the Senate approved a measure 80 votes to 17 to more than double funding to $15.25 billion to FEMA and local block grants to handle natural disasters. The House is expected to approve the measure later this week. It already approved $7.85 billion on Wednesday. “FEMA is stretched, and, of all things, FEMA runs out of money unless we act by tomorrow,” Democrat Senator Bill Nelson said in a speech on Thursday, following a letter he wrote with Republican Senator Marco Rubio to congressional leaders warning that more funds were needed.

The bill also extends the National Flood Insurance Program through Dec. 8 that was set to expire on Sept. 30. The government-subsidized insurance program helps homeowners in flood-prone areas receive coverage. It is nearly $25 billion in debt and members of both parties want to reform it. FEMA declined on Thursday to say how much remained in its Disaster Relief Fund, which had just over $1 billion on hand as of Tuesday, less than half the $2.1 billion it had last week. The agency has received a record number of disaster assistance requests from victims of Hurricane Harvey. “We’re not going to let money get in the way of saving lives,” FEMA director Brock Long told broadcaster CBS on Wednesday. “Congress knows what they need to do.”

David Lapan, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees FEMA, also declined to say on Thursday when the fund would be depleted, but said it would not be long without congressional action. On Thursday, U.S. President Donald Trump approved a major disaster declaration for the U.S. Virgin Islands, which makes residents eligible for FEMA and other government grants for temporary housing and home repairs, low-cost loans to cover uninsured property losses, and other programs.

In response to Irma, FEMA said staff had been deployed to the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico and more than 1,000 personnel were ready to respond in Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina and Georgia. Provisions include millions of liters of water, meals, medical equipment and generators.

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FEMA may run out of funds on Friday...

FEMA may run out of funds on Friday: senators
September 7, 2017 - The U.S. Federal Emergency Management Agency will run out of disaster assistance funding on Friday unless Congress approves more money, two Florida senators warned on Thursday.
Then Congress needs to write and approve a bill granting FEMA operating funds. Nothing more. The east Indian Tsetse fly can be saved later.
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The models have it tracking our way in NC. Doesn't look good.
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The models have it tracking our way in NC. Doesn't look good.
Looks like it is gonna punch through us first. Hope it wimps out.
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