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I needed to redirect from the EPA Head wants to talk C.C. on TV.. So any poster involved can locate the conversation..

This is a different outlook compared to the other To Hot To Fly.. And [It covers many other things that are effected by rising heat.[/I]

See we forget open areas with a lot of asphalt or concrete hold on to heat which is the reason cI]t[Ies & the suburbs are warmer than living in the country.[/I][/I]

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Published: 07/16/17 04:54 am EDT.

LOS ANGELES -- More than 40 large wildfires are buring out of control this weekend in at least seven Western states. Many of these fires were sparked by lightning and are now being fueled by triple-digit heat.

This summer, we've also seen how extreme heat can impact air travel. Sometimes it's just too hot to fly -- and a new study says it's going to get worse for air travellers.

Record-high temperatures grounded dozens of planes in Phoenix, where the mercury approached 120 degrees in late June -- too hot for some smaller regional jets to take off.

It's a problem that will occur more frequently at more airports, according to a Columbia University study published in the Journal of Climate Change this week. Researchers predict maximum temperatures at some airports could rise between 7 and 14 degrees by 2080.

"A 5- to 10-degree average increase translates to some serious operational challenges," says commerical pilot Patrick Smith, who runs the website askthepilot.com.

Smith says modern airliners perform best in cooler air that's more dense because it generates more lift. As the temperatures rise, planes need more speed -- and longer runways -- to take off, as well as lighter loads.

"Sometimes the result of all that is -- well, we can't take a full load of people, or we can't take a full load of fuel," Smith says. "You could be prohibited from flying at all."

According to the study, in the future up to 30 percent of flights could face some sort of weight restriction during heatwaves. At New York's LaGuardia, for example, where runways are notoriously short, "a Boeing 737-800 would have have to offload weight half the time during the hottest days."

Smith says a solution could be decades away.

"You can't just slap new engines or new wings on a plane to meet whatever that challenges climate change is going to present,. we're going to have to work this into the thinking into how newer planes are conceived and designed," Smith says.

The record high at LAX is about 110 degrees. The maximum operating temperature for some of the common regional jets is 118 degrees. So if the temperatures rise as predicted, that could cause problems if some of these predictions hold true.
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Lupry, this is not unprecedented. Weather and temperature vary.

The wildfire count this year is roughly 65% YTD of that of 2000, both in number and acres burned.

The record temperature in Pheonix 1990 - 122. 4 higher than this year high, so nothing new here.

The plane grounding was one type of airplane, one of the commercial Bombi's, and one day for a 3 hour period. So no new crisis.

Meanwhile in Richmond it's cool enough today in Chesterfield Va for a book, cigar, and beer on the deck. Unusually low for this time of year. And nobody drowned at Va beach today due to rising sea levels.
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Lupry, this is not unprecedented. Weather and temperature vary.

The wildfire count this year is roughly 65% YTD of that of 2000, both in number and acres burned.

The record temperature in Pheonix 1990 - 122. 4 higher than this year high, so nothing new here.

The plane grounding was one type of airplane, one of the commercial Bombi's, and one day for a 3 hour period. So no new crisis.

Meanwhile in Richmond it's cool enough today in Chesterfield Va for a book, cigar, and beer on the deck. Unusually low for this time of year. And nobody drowned at Va beach today due to rising sea levels.
Why do you say it isn't unprecedented? When it is proven 2016 was the hottest year on record.. And 2017 will be as hot or even hotter.

I can't understand your denial. Try to help me understand th[Is and your total denial of anything C.C.[/I]

I think it has to do with you might be charge and pay some rate if C.C., I]s seen to be real[/I]
Just how much isn't affordable to maintain our present Earth? And do you realize that if this does pan out to be very real in the end.

Deniers will become the other Terrorist trying to destroy our Planet..
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Why do you say it isn't unprecedented? When it is proven 2016 was the hottest year on record.. And 2017 will be as hot or even hotter.

IDeniers will become the other Terrorist trying to destroy our Planet..
The first statement is not proven. Many, like 30,000 scientist are saying this is a hoax. The second statement is sad. Calling anyone a terrorist for not believing as you do is just not right in the head.

http://www.petitionproject.org/

Time to back off.

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Why do you say it isn't unprecedented? When it is proven 2016 was the hottest year on record.. And 2017 will be as hot or even hotter.

I can't understand your denial. Try to help me understand th[Is and your total denial of anything C.C.[/I]

I think it has to do with you might be charge and pay some rate if C.C., I]s seen to be real[/I]
Just how much isn't affordable to maintain our present Earth? And do you realize that if this does pan out to be very real in the end.

Deniers will become the other Terrorist trying to destroy our Planet..
How, exactly,is paying a tax going to change a natural cycle? Who benefits from an additional tax? Not you, and not me.
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Why do you say it isn't unprecedented? When it is proven 2016 was the hottest year on record.. And 2017 will be as hot or even hotter.

I can't understand your denial. Try to help me understand th[Is and your total denial of anything C.C.[/I]

I think it has to do with you might be charge and pay some rate if C.C., I]s seen to be real[/I]
Just how much isn't affordable to maintain our present Earth? And do you realize that if this does pan out to be very real in the end.

Deniers will become the other Terrorist trying to destroy our Planet..
Possibly because of this and similar.

https://www.climate.gov/news-feature...ng-past-decade

2016 approximately matched 2000, and the 100 year rise is nowhere the the 5 degree mar The temperature variance over the past 3 years falls werll within the statistical norms.
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The first statement is not proven. Many, like 30,000 scientist are saying this is a hoax. The second statement is sad. Calling anyone a terrorist for not believing as you do is just not right in the head.

http://www.petitionproject.org/

Time to back off.

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Hey Kirk, for every Scientist saying it isn't real I can find one that disagrees..


Not proven my ash Kirk! Why is it you few depend on your opinions and not facts?
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This article is about scientific consensus on the current climate change. For public perception and controversy, see Public opinion on climate change and Global warming controversy.
Summary of opinions from climate and earth scientists regarding climate change. Click to see a more detailed summary of the sources.

The scientific opinion on climate change is the overall judgment among scientists regarding the extent to which global warming is occurring, its causes, and its probable consequences. The scientific consensus is that the Earth's climate system is unequivocally warming, and that it is extremely likely (meaning 95% probability or higher) that this warming is predominantly caused by humans. It is likely that this mainly arises from increased concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, such as from deforestation and the burning of fossil fuels, partially offset by human caused increases in aerosols; natural changes had little effect.[1][2][3][4]

This scientific opinion is expressed in synthesis reports, by scientific bodies of national or international standing, and by surveys of opinion among climate scientists. Individual scientists, universities, and laboratories contribute to the overall scientific opinion via their peer-reviewed publications, and the areas of collective agreement and relative certainty are summarised in these respected reports and surveys.[5]

National and international science academies and scientific societies have assessed current scientific opinion on global warming. These assessments are generally consistent with the conclusions of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. The IPCC Fourth Assessment Report stated that:

Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as evidenced by increases in global average air and ocean temperatures, the widespread melting of snow and ice, and rising global average sea level.[6]
Most of the global warming since the mid-20th century is very likely due to human activities.[7]
Benefits and costs of climate change for [human] society will vary widely by location and scale.[8] Some of the effects in temperate and polar regions will be positive and others elsewhere will be negative.[8] Overall, net effects are more likely to be strongly negative with larger or more rapid warming.[8]
The range of published evidence indicates that the net damage costs of climate change are likely to be significant and to increase over time.[9]
The resilience of many ecosystems is likely to be exceeded this century by an unprecedented combination of climate change, associated disturbances (e.g. flooding, drought, wildfire, insects, ocean acidification) and other global change drivers (e.g. land-use change, pollution, fragmentation of natural systems, over-exploitation of resources).[10]

Some scientific bodies have recommended specific policies to governments, and science can play a role in informing an effective response to climate change. Policy decisions, however, may require value judgements and so are not included in the scientific opinion


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How, exactly,is paying a tax going to change a natural cycle? Who benefits from an additional tax? Not you, and not me.
Wrong ..

Please try to understand, deniers think this way. Whom benefits, why every living species that's all

Try to grasp this one fact GottaGo. It is going to be the last Unnatural or Natural Global Warming this planet will experience, as it is going to continual to experience rising temp.. No snaps to reign this warming in.
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Hey Kirk, for every Scientist saying it isn't real I can find one that disagrees..


Not proven my ash Kirk! Why is it you few depend on your opinions and not facts?
So knowing each of you will spin any news I place you pick the dang news article... at;

https://nortonsafe.search.ask.com/we...ctype=&tpr=121

Knowing not one of you will click the links I provide..



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scient...climate_change

Also if possible Check the other links at and you might find one that supports your opinions.


https://nortonsafe.search.ask.com/we...ctype=&tpr=121
Means sh1t to me. I don't believe a word off this garbage.

I believe in statistics, and they say this is garbage. They say not enough raw data for the amount of time the earth has been here. Get it?

I don't believe in taxing to fix it, nor do I believe it is anything but a partisan political issue.

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