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Old 07-17-2017, 03:24 PM
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Hey calling all of the C.C. deniers! To save time please copy all of your patent replies as I am going to keep posting these News Articles.

Even if I go to your side and become a denier.. Why? Simple I fear not enough people are learning enough on this topic either way..

So in the future try to direct your replies to the readers as I post these articles for them to read..


I believe if you speak to our readers it will make for a better informed debate.. But this is just IMHO...

See my goal is to inform both ways/sides.. So your doing your part and me, well I am doing mine..

Much and do have a nice day people...
I haven't heard a single person deny the Climate is Changing. It is patently obvious to even the most casual observer. But the evidence that one) it is anthropogenic; Two) It is unusual; and Three) mankind can actually do something about it; is at best questionable. And, whilst scientist may have reasonable arguments, the politicians and elitists do not have reasonable solutions. And they would exempt themselves as they do with any draconian Regulations or Laws they implement.

For instance, one of the largest individual carbon footprints in America is placed daily by the very man who called the Truth about CC "Inconvenient." One cannot help but notice that virtually none of his predictions have come true. Worse none of his solutions, when implemented, have turned the tide.

Back to the OP, Planes cannot fly in the heat????? Actually they can. But their payloads must be reduced because hotter air has less lift. This has been consistently true since the Wright brothers first tried flight. 1900's. And it was also true in the 70's when we were heading into a mini ice age.

Cold air is denser. Makes IC engines run better and develop more HP. It also lifts airplanes better. Physics 101.
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I agree to yet do have differences in forming certain opinions.. Plus it is the Global Warming I worry about mostly at present..

As it is at the very uncomfortable stage now. While rising water etc., won't be that bad a problem except for low lying Islands mostly in the Pacific Ocean.


As for planes flying, well one I didn't write the title nor would I have used it in that way knowing all that was needed was to reduce the flight load.

ie, ask several passengers to step off the plane.. what a nightmare this can cause...

See we all know the heat Index can not be predicted to one day that week 3 months from now. So boarding passes aren't issued with tickets for this or that flight..

Again stop playing with me over the small crap... If you know so dang much then you know it is going to get worst as predicted. And forget Al the dumb ash Gore.. I mock him myself..
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I agree to yet do have differences in forming certain opinions.. Plus it is the Global Warming I worry about mostly at present..

As it is at the very uncomfortable stage now. While rising water etc., won't be that bad a problem except for low lying Islands mostly in the Pacific Ocean.


As for planes flying, well one I didn't write the title nor would I have used it in that way knowing all that was needed was to reduce the flight load.

ie, ask several passengers to step off the plane.. what a nightmare this can cause...

See we all know the heat Index can not be predicted to one day that week 3 months from now. So boarding passes aren't issued with tickets for this or that flight..

Again stop playing with me over the small crap... If you know so dang much then you know it is going to get worst as predicted. And forget Al the dumb ash Gore.. I mock him myself..
No, I don't know it is going to get worse. I do know the Climate will change.

You posted the title not me. And no the airlines do not eject passengers although I have had my luggage delayed because they would not put it on the same plane.

Heat indexes are not the same as lower air density. The heat index (HI) or humiture is an index that combines air temperature and relative humidity. Besides, if we cannot predict them locally, a few days in advance, then how can we predict Global Climate changes.

Your problem doesn't stem from what you post, but the belief that somehow it is gospel. When questioned you take it personal. How does one learn from that?

Bottom line, the arguments for and against climate change are not left and right, nor are they patent science. Whilst we no longer read the future in bones and tea leaves, our predictors of man made doom have yet to be correct in any of their short term prognostications. So if you don't mind, in the interest of maintaining empirical observations, can we not be open to the concept that maybe the sky really isn't falling just yet?
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More of the same FrancSevin, just more repeating. I know your on top of this subject you dislike so much.. But it is also from those that you chose to agree with.

Look I am going to post this news. And I am tried of the same opinions and what some here find as facts. Some are true, but some is far from what some others believe and have published reports on.

So it ends now. You and your friends don't control this forum. And I play by simple rules. Not yours or your friends.

So I will continue to post on C.C./Global Warming but more making replies to you or any others opinions.

I would like you and others to reply to the subject without trying to engage me. As I am not the writer of the posted materiel.

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More of the same FrancSevin, just more repeating. I know your on top of this subject you dislike so much.. But it is also from those that you chose to agree with.

Look I am going to post this news. And I am tried of the same opinions and what some here find as facts. Some are true, but some is far from what some others believe and have published reports on.
So it ends now. You and your friends don't control this forum. And I play by simple rules. Not yours or your friends.

So I will continue to post on C.C./Global Warming but more making replies to you or any others opinions.

I would like you and others to reply to the subject without trying to engage me. As I am not the writer of the posted materiel.

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Your own words say it well. We who are skeptical tire of the same crap as well. But the subject IS important and the discussion necessary. If you tire of the intercourse then I would suggest you stop posting the same tired arguments from the same sources.

I don't chose to agree with a theory, or a premise. And I certainly don't want to allocate my neighbor's wallet or lifestyle on my "beliefs." Science works a process to prove something is a fact, not apply selected facts to prove the theory.

A simple observation of increased heat suggests climate change. It does not prove it. And it certainly does not prove Anthropogenic Global Warming.
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Your own words say it well. We who are skeptical tire of the same crap as well. But the subject IS important and the discussion necessary. If you tire of the intercourse then I would suggest you stop posting the same tired arguments from the same sources.

I don't chose to agree with a theory, or a premise. And I certainly don't want to allocate my neighbor's wallet or lifestyle on my "beliefs." Science works a process to prove something is a fact, not apply selected facts to prove the theory.

A simple observation of increased heat suggests climate change. It does not prove it. And it certainly does not prove Anthropogenic Global Warming.
If you believe to debate it is worthy and I do.. Just why is so damn important to debate me over it.

Do you need a scrape goat FrancSevin to make a valid point? I would think not..

And now the baiting is over..
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If you believe to debate it is worthy and I do.. Just why is so damn important to debate me over it.

Do you need a scrape goat FrancSevin to make a valid point? I would think not..

And now the baiting is over..
Lurpy, you post these articles in this forum, and then as soon as anyone posts a disagreeing position, suddenly everybody's picking on you.

It happens that I am one of the 3% deniers. I assume that makes me one of Franc's "friends".

If you post and I have something to add, I'll add it. Simple as that.

Please explain this sentence:

If you believe to debate it is worthy and I do.. Just why is so damn important to debate me over it.

I just don't get it.
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If you believe to debate it is worthy and I do.. Just why is so damn important to debate me over it.

Do you need a scrape goat FrancSevin to make a valid point? I would think not..

And now the baiting is over..
Because you posted your opinion.

Again, if you want to have a conversation with adults...; please grow up.
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Because you posted your opinion.

Again, if you want to have a conversation with adults...; please grow up.

My goodness, you are such an insolent bastard of self-proclaimed superiority.
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My goodness, you are such an insolent bastard of self-proclaimed superiority.
And you seem free and easy with insults when short on any useful information.
Typical of victimhood when boldly confronted.


Again, a confidence in what I post being a true, logical, opinion of THE SUBJECT, is honesty, not insolence.
Or arrogance.
Or malice.

You too are welcome to go back to the kiddie table if the honest conversation amoung the adults threatens your safe spaces.
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