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Old 03-04-2017, 05:28 AM
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Well it seems that 7 out of 10 American's do know about C.C., yet about half think it will harm them. With many believing it will be future generation that will suffer from the effects of Climate Change..
Yet there are still far to many people that are deniers and want nothing to do with any of this C.C. talk.
A safe bet is many in the Trump camp are in this group..
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Climate change is a threat - but it won't hurt me, Americans say.


By J.D. Capelouto

LONDON (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Seven in 10 Americans believe global warming is happening, but less than half think it will harm them personally, a new Yale University study estimates.

Most Americans, however, are still worried about climate change, and believe it will hurt future generations both in the United States and in developing countries, the report found.

The study, published this week, is part of the Yale Climate Opinion Maps 2.0, an interactive tool based on a 2016 survey on climate change beliefs and attitudes in the United States.

The tool, created by the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication (YPCCC), includes data broken down by state, Congressional district, county, and metro area.

The metro areas feature, new this year to the map, suggests that people living in major U.S. cities are more attuned to the effects of climate change.

Residents in cities such as San Francisco, Boston, New York, Washington, and Miami, for example, were more likely to believe that global warming is happening, and be worried by it......

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I suggest you go to the local community college and take a course called "statistics". Pay particular attention when dealing with some thing called "confidence intervals". It will help you sleep at night to understand how old the earth is, how much data for how many years we actually have.

Then consider the ICC has been caught fudging data sets several times.

Funny you list that in Cities is were the belief climate change exists. I make my living from the weather, in Agriculture. On my side of the fence in Agriculture it is hardly ever mentioned. Do you have any idea how many satellites are orbiting collecting data on the worlds Agriculture? How many multinational grain companies are gathering data each and every day? How people who invest in the commodities markets plow through more data in a week than you will in a year?

People in the cities are easily influenced and easy to misguide. This is very much why the liberal Democrat is a "citified" urban political party. The typical urbanite has not a clue. So paying attention to them is... well, dumb.

The weather is constantly changing. We had very little snow or winter this year. Global warming? Hardly. I can remember quite a few winters like this one, in the past. Why don't you?

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And I suggest you and friends get off the soapbox and give it a rest
300 H and H.......

As not every bit of news on this Topic can be wrong as you people make it out to be...

And as I see it now 7 out of 10 Americans can't be wrong either.. So go preach your crap to them...
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And as I see it now 7 out of 10 Americans can't be wrong either.. So go preach your crap to them...
Pew: Most Americans Don?t Believe in ?Scientific Consensus? on Climate Change

Don't tell lies then.

Preach your crap some were else then.

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I appreciate your discussions on cc, mlurp. yes I do fear it will affect my generation. I get newsletters and notices from nasa and live science and many others. there are regular articles-not as many as archeology and newly discovered life lately but about 3rd place is articles about what is already happening or has happened.
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Pew: Most Americans Don?t Believe in ?Scientific Consensus? on Climate Change

Don't tell lies then.

Preach your crap some were else then.

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Hey I just post news articles you're the one with the lies... You as others post opinions and some of the others post odd ball studies..

But you post nothing factual, just your thoughts and then to call anyone who post actual news and call them a lair is so low and stupid I have lost all respect for you, Dipstick!
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Hey I just post news articles you're the one with the lies... You as others post opinions and some of the others post odd ball studies..

But you post nothing factual, just your thoughts and then to call anyone who post actual news and call them a lair is so low and stupid I have lost all respect for you, Dipstick!
Your the dipstick here bud.

I have no respect for some one who does not do the same for me.

The link I posted was a lie? Tell me, how do you know this? Or is it just that you know that me, and others here do not by into your climate change idea's?

Every time you bring this here, seems to me that some one always hands your azz to you. You would think that would be enough for a intelligent person to reexamine doing the same thing, looking for a different result.

No, you just say anything presented opposite of your chicken little belief system has to be a lie.

SO now you want unfettered abilities to post up your climate change garbage, as we are just supposed to let you influence other weak minds like your own...

Not going to happen here. I am quite sure there is a place for your take of the world with other weak minds like yourself. Go find that place and you can do as you like/ Here there are very strong non believers of this garbage and lies. It is all about control of mankind, by those with a global agenda. Democrats for the most part. The topic is nearly totally political at this point.

So either grow a pair and engage me and others with some thing substantial, or go pout in a corner some were. To call names and act like a baby isn't cutting here on my end.

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I suggest you go to the local community college and take a course called "statistics". Pay particular attention when dealing with some thing called "confidence intervals". It will help you sleep at night to understand how old the earth is, how much data for how many years we actually have.
Are you aware of the fact that the Earth has gone through dramatic evolutionary environmental changes, including dramatic changes in the climate, during it's 4.5 billion year existence. It is believed, based upon evidence, that the early atmosphere was dominated by CO2 while today it's about 89% nitrogen and 20% oxygen.

From a climatology perspective only the last 450 millions years has relevance to today's environment and we have significant information related to the last 450 million years.

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Then consider the ICC has been caught fudging data sets several times.
Updating and revising historical records based upon the ever increasing scientific knowledge is called "fudging" by the science-deniers.

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Funny you list that in Cities is were the belief climate change exists. I make my living from the weather, in Agriculture. On my side of the fence in Agriculture it is hardly ever mentioned. Do you have any idea how many satellites are orbiting collecting data on the worlds Agriculture? How many multinational grain companies are gathering data each and every day? How people who invest in the commodities markets plow through more data in a week than you will in a year?

People in the cities are easily influenced and easy to misguide. This is very much why the liberal Democrat is a "citified" urban political party. The typical urbanite has not a clue. So paying attention to them is... well, dumb.

The weather is constantly changing. We had very little snow or winter this year. Global warming? Hardly. I can remember quite a few winters like this one, in the past. Why don't you?
Weather and global climate change (AGW) are not the same subject. Global warming can cause some locations to have cooler weather and others to have much warmer weather. Some dry places to receive more rain. Some rainy places to receive less rain. Weather is a local phenomena while climate change is global.

Weather is predominately related to the troposphere (lower atmosphere) while global warming addresses stored planet heat energy (the amount of total stored heat in all of the atmosphere, all of the oceans, and all of the land).

For example the mean depth of the ocean is 15,000 ft and a change of 1C recorded at 15,000 feet will not affect the ocean surface temperature or the weather but it would cause a significant rise in the sea level because of the thermal expansion of the water.

When we hear Republicans yapping about the weather we know that they don't understand global warming.
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Lurpy You are a good guy and I respect your opinions. I have a lot in common with you most importantly VN service. However I think you have gone off the porch with this climate change business. There has always been natural climate change since the beginning of time no one disputes that. The notation it is man made and we must implement further regulations to combat it is a left wing anti capitalist hoax. All the statistical data comes from scientists who need to come up with phony stats to maintain their grants . The very fact that left tries to claim it is settled science when it is based on models with no empirical data smacks of the left wing tactic of suppressing dissent.
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