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The special kind of stupid here ran a looser Hillary.

Now all you can do is whine and cry.

You fuq ups are a dime a dozen. To bad you can't count that far.

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The special kind of stupid here ran a looser Hillary.

Now all you can do is whine and cry.

You fuq ups are a dime a dozen. To bad you can't count that far.

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Trying to cover up your stupidity with cartoons. Nice!

Got caught with nothing of use, once again, and now you resort to this childish display of internet cartoons.

You go girl!

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lol... you are a flat-earther.

that explains a lot! hahaahaha
Hardly a flat earther. I have this notion that no one of the laws of man are ignored by or with the laws of physics.

While we may prove the validity of AGW. doing so with manipulated data does not help to convince any rational person of it's validity. When the science is true to the facts, it follows the conclusions made are valid. Finding a flaw in the man made science does not help to prove the scientific validity.

Science, by it's true nature, is supposed to be skeptical. I'm a skeptic of those who must cheat the evidence to prove their hypothesis. Those who are not skeptical of conclusions based on manipulated data, are the pabulum sucking noles.

It sure sounds like that would be you.
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Hardly a flat earther. I have this notion that no one of the laws of man are ignored by or with the laws of physics.

While we may prove the validity of AGW. doing so with manipulated data does not help to convince any rational person of it's validity. When the science is true to the facts, it follows the conclusions made are valid. Finding a flaw in the man made science does not help to prove the scientific validity.

Science, by it's true nature, is supposed to be skeptical. I'm a skeptic of those who must cheat the evidence to prove their hypothesis. Those who are not skeptical of conclusions based on manipulated data, are the pabulum sucking noles.

It sure sounds like that would be you.
the data wasn't manipulated in this instance. Do you have another instance that you are talking about??
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the data wasn't manipulated in this instance. Do you have another instance that you are talking about??
'Whistleblower' says protocol was breached but no data fraud

Read this again. You posted it as a link... Protocol was ignored in the data collection. In other words data was included that did not meet the prevailing criteria that should be constant through out the observations taken in the data set.

No data manipulation, just new data that should not have been included, and that influenced the results as is clearly pointed out.

So just more denier bullsh1t from the GW community of Global Elites.

They love weak minds.

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'Whistleblower' says protocol was breached but no data fraud

Read this again. You posted it as a link... Protocol was ignored in the data collection. In other words data was included that did not meet the prevailing criteria that should be constant through out the observations taken in the data set.
This is false. Protocol was not ignored in the data collection. Protocol in archiving the dataset and the process NOAA NCEI uses in defining and classifying the dataset was not followed properly. Karl used two published datasets, ERSST.v4 for SST, and the ISTI global land surface dataset. NOAA had switched to ERSST v4 in May of 2015 but they hadn't finished internal reviews of the latter dataset, ISTI.

Major points to note:

The change to the ISTI dataset which increased the number of land stations had very little effect on the temperature trend. Almost all the change came from switching to version 4 of the ERSST dataset. And newer publications have verified the improvement of using version 4 over version 3 as version 4 more closely matches newer buoy data.

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No data manipulation, just new data that should not have been included,
This is false. First there was nothing actually wrong with included the ISTI dataset in a paper published in Science. The dataset is published and was supplied to Science and placed on the NOAA ftp server. It was not a specific NOAA publication produced by the agency itself so it becomes even more pedantic to argue over archiving and classification protocols.

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and that influenced the results as is clearly pointed out.
It is not clearly pointed out whatsoever. The inclusion of the ISTI database had very little effect on the result. The improved ERSSTv4 dataset is what increased the trend. And as mentioned above, further studies have shown it is more accurate than version 3.

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So just more denier bullsh1t from the GW community of Global Elites.

They love weak minds.

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After reading all the dishonest distortions made in the David Rose article, the only weak minds are the ones that believed the bull**** he was trying to sell.
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'Whistleblower' says protocol was breached but no data fraud

Read this again. You posted it as a link... Protocol was ignored in the data collection. In other words data was included that did not meet the prevailing criteria that should be constant through out the observations taken in the data set.

No data manipulation, just new data that should not have been included, and that influenced the results as is clearly pointed out.

So just more denier bullsh1t from the GW community of Global Elites.

They love weak minds.

Regards, Kirk
Including or excluding data evidence that makes your argument is not good science. It's politics.

I'm sorry but that is still manipulation of data to achieve a desired conclusion.

A few years ago, NOAA stopped using about 5,000 of its former 11,000 data points, choosing to use a higher percentage of them in urban areas. The data was true, yes, but now skewed to represent more of the effects from Urban temps which would be higher than the previously assembled data. Thus showing a warming trend.

Again, manipulation of the data by inclusion or exclusion is still "MANIPULATION."

All the "consensus" of mankind cannot change the laws of physics. The climate is changing, yes. And that may or may not be by the hand of man. But, the world is not getting warmer.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterfer.../#89c06401281d

Unfortunately, the Al Gore sycophants have convinced the world that warmer temperatures prove their claims. A proof test they should now regret along with those ten foot rises of the sea. Neither is currently apparent as promised.
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