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The Obama administration is effectively banning the construction of new coal-fired power plants, a move officials admit will have little to no impact on global warming.

“The EPA does not anticipate that this proposed rule will result in notable CO2 emission change,” the agency writes in its proposal to limit greenhouse gas emissions.

“EPA knows there aren’t benefits,” Dan Simmons, director of regulatory and state affairs at the Institute for Energy Research, told The Daily Caller News Foundation. “EPA and environmentalists are being disingenuous when they claim this rule will have an impact on the climate or the environment.”
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Natural gas is replacing coal...

Utilities plan to ignore Trump’s end to ‘war on coal’
Thu, Apr 06, 2017 - When US President Donald Trump signed an executive order last week to sweep away climate change regulations installed by former US president Barack Obama, he said it would end the US’ “war on coal,” usher in a new era of energy production and put miners back to work.
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However, the biggest consumers of US coal — power generating companies — remain unconvinced. Reuters surveyed 32 utilities with operations in the 26 states that sued Obama’s administration to block its Clean Power Plan, the main target of Trump’s executive order. The bulk of them have no plans to alter their multibillion US dollar, years-long shift away from coal, suggesting that demand for the fuel will keep falling, despite Trump’s efforts. The utilities gave many reasons, mainly economic: Natural gas — coal’s top competitor — is cheap and abundant; solar and wind power costs are falling; state environmental laws remain in place; and Trump’s regulatory rollback might not survive legal challenges.

Meanwhile, big investors aligned with the climate change agenda — such as the Norwegian Sovereign Wealth Fund — have been pressuring US utilities in which they own stakes to cut coal use. “I’m not going to build new coal plants in today’s environment,” said Ben Fowke, chief executive officer of Xcel Energy, which operates in eight US states and uses coal for about 36 percent of its electricity production. “And if I’m not going to build new ones, eventually there won’t be any.” Of the 32 utilities contacted by Reuters, 20 said Trump’s order would have no effect on their investment plans; five said they were reviewing the implications of the order; six gave no response. Just one said it would prolong the life of some of its older coal-fired power units.


A truck hauls coal and sediment on Tuesday at the Black Butte coal mine outside Rock Springs, Wyoming.

North Dakota’s Basin Electric Power Cooperative identified a positive effect of Trump’s order on the outlook for coal. “We’re in the situation where the executive order takes a lot of pressure off the decisions we had to make in the near term, such as whether to retrofit and retire older coal plants, but Trump can be a one-termer, so the reprieve out there is short,” Basin Electric spokesman Dale Niezwaag said. Trump’s executive order triggered a review aimed at killing the Clean Power Plan. The Obama-era law would have required states, by 2030, to collectively cut carbon emissions from existing power plants by 30 percent from 2005 levels. It was designed as a primary strategy in US efforts to fight global warming. The US coal industry, without increases in domestic demand, would need to rely on export markets for growth. Shipments of US metallurgical coal, used in the production of steel, have shown up in China following a two-year hiatus — in part to offset banned shipments from North Korea and temporary delays from cyclone-hit Australian producers.

Coal had been the primary fuel source for US power plants for the past century, but its use has fallen more than one-third since 2008 after advancements in drilling technology unlocked new reserves of natural gas. Hundreds of aging coal-fired power plants have been retired or retrofitted. Huge coal mining companies such as Peabody Energy Corp and Arch Coal fell into bankruptcy, while production last year hit its lowest point since 1978. The slide appears likely to continue: US power companies now expect to retire or convert more than 8,000 megawatts of coal-fired plants this year after shutting almost 13,000 megawatts last year, according to US Energy Information Administration and Thomson Reuters data.

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Maybe that will change when they realize the EPA isn't up their butts, and they can build new coal fired plants, to replace those they have been retro fitting with EPA mandated exhaust systems...

The ship was told to go a different direction with Democrats at the wheel. It does how ever take some time and recalculations when turning a massive ship about...

We need all forms of energy, not just one.

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Default Re: EPA Admits Obama’s Plan To Ban New Coal Power Plants Won’t Curb CO2 Emissions

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Natural gas is replacing coal...

Utilities plan to ignore Trump’s end to ‘war on coal’
Thu, Apr 06, 2017 - When US President Donald Trump signed an executive order last week to sweep away climate change regulations installed by former US president Barack Obama, he said it would end the US’ “war on coal,” usher in a new era of energy production and put miners back to work.
Natural gas became popular for two reasons. Anti-coal politics and the technology of fracking bringing more NG to the market. Both are fading into history.

The new sheriff in town has seen the EPA's folly and returned our nation's measuring system for EPA approval back to reality. Coal will return as king for much of our energy production.

And fracking is a busted boom. Not only is it environmentally questionable, it turns out that the fracking assisted wells run dry in a very few years.
http://insideenergy.org/2016/03/28/w...oom-goes-bust/
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/f...ientists-16680

It's going to be Okay. The keystone pipeline, and others, will carry oil once delivered dangerously by rail. Warren Buffet will be okay as the coal trains will resume and replace his oil transport revenues.

Now, let's see if we can get other sectors of the economy, and social life, back to an American Normal.
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