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n 2005, the antibiotic fluoroquinolone was banned by the FDA for use in poultry production. The reason for the ban was an alarming increase in antibiotic-resistant campylobacter bacteria in the meat of chickens and turkeys - "superbugs", which can lead to a lethal form of meningitis that our current antibiotics are no longer effective against.
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Antibiotic-resistant infections kill tens of thousands of people every year, more than die of Aids, according to the Infectious Diseases Society of America. This problem is on the rise because antibiotics are recklessly overused, especially in the commercial livestock industry, where 80% of all antibiotics manufactured in the US end up.
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Fluoroquinolone used to be fed to chickens primarily to stimulate their growth. But why did the banned substance show up recently in eight of 12 samples of "feather meal", the ground-down plumage leftover from commercial poultry production?
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This was just one of the mysteries uncovered in a study conducted jointly by the Johns Hopkins Center for a Livable Future and Arizona State University. The research, published last month in the journal Environmental Science & Technology, uncovered a whole slew of other drugs in the feather meal that the scientists had not expected to find there.
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Traces of the arsenic compound Roxarsone, for example, were present in almost all of the samples. Farms administer arsenic to chickens to turn their flesh just the right shade of pink that consumers find attractive. Yet, in June 2011, the FDA gave Pfizer 30 days to discontinue selling Roxarsone, a proven carcinogen. So why is it still showing up in our chickens?
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Other substances that the scientists found include acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol, Benadryl, an antihistamine, even Prozac, an antidepressant. Farms feed chickens these mood-altering drugs to reduce their anxiety. Chickens are anxious because they are bred on overcrowded and filthy factory farms. Stressed-out birds develop meat that is tough and unpalatable, so they need to be sedated. Yet, chickens on tranquilizers sleep all the time and do not eat enough. So they are given high doses of caffeine (which was also found in the feather meal) to keep them awake at night to feed and fatten up.
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So, here is the deal. We create hellish conditions for our livestock, then we drug them to keep them numb. Then we drug them again to wake them from their pharmaceutical stupor. Then we drug them to grow faster. Then we drug them so their flesh will look healthier. Then we drug them to withstand the disease epidemics that our overcrowding has created.
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Then, of course, we drug ourselves every time we take a bite of factory-farmed poultry.
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...Scientists Cry Fowl Over the FDA's Regulatory Failure

But let's deregulate everything and let the free market settle everything.
Uh......no thanks...
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But let's deregulate everything and let the free market settle everything.
Uh......no thanks...
Who suggested we deregulate everything?...
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Who suggested we deregulate everything?...
Most Republicans I talk to anymore.
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Most Republicans I talk to anymore.
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Nope...You don't know ONE who's said that...
Yes. They hate regulations of any kind that I can think of. Banking, food safety, air quality...
What kind of regulations do you like?
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Yes. They hate regulations of any kind that I can think of. Banking, food safety, air quality...
What kind of regulations do you like?
NO we don't, we just think that in most cases regulation is over done. It's NOT black and white. Opposing some regualtions DOES NOT mena that we oppase all regulations. You've made this accusation repeatedly and it's been repudiated repeatedly. Yet you still insist on beleiveing that it's true. You either suffer from an incredibly poor memory, a blatant refusal to accept facts or just want to throw **** and see what sticks.
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NO we don't, we just think that in most cases regulation is over done. It's NOT black and white. Opposing some regualtions DOES NOT mena that we oppase all regulations. You've made this accusation repeatedly and it's been repudiated repeatedly. Yet you still insist on beleiveing that it's true. You either suffer from an incredibly poor memory, a blatant refusal to accept facts or just want to throw **** and see what sticks.
I'll ask you the same question. What regulations will you go on record as saying you favor?
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I'll ask you the same question. What regulations will you go on record as saying you favor?
Those which protect the public's safety without killing whole industries with onerous regulations. Common sense regulations that keep our food chain safe and aren't the result of the raving paranoia of the moment.

If you want specifics, you'll be waiting a long time, because I'm not about to waste my time educating you when all that will come of my efforts will be another post like this in a couple of weeks.
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Those which protect the public's safety without killing whole industries with onerous regulations. Common sense regulations that keep our food chain safe and aren't the result of the raving paranoia of the moment.

If you want specifics, you'll be waiting a long time, because I'm not about to waste my time educating you when all that will come of my efforts will be another post like this in a couple of weeks.
Yes I thought you could give specifics off the top of your head.
I for one would like stricter regulations of chicken production now that I have read of this chicken coup this lab has pulled on the farmers.
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