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Old 11-16-2007, 08:20 AM
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LAKEPORT, Calif. - Three young black men break into a white man's home in rural Northern California. The homeowner shoots two of them to death — but it's the surviving black man who is charged with murder.

In a case that has brought cries of racism from civil rights groups, Renato Hughes Jr., 22, was charged by prosecutors in this overwhelmingly white county under a rarely invoked legal doctrine that could make him responsible for the bloodshed.

"It was pandemonium" inside the house that night, District Attorney Jon Hopkins said. Hughes was responsible for "setting the whole thing in motion by his actions and the actions of his accomplices."

Prosecutors said homeowner Shannon Edmonds opened fire Dec. 7 after three young men rampaged through the Clearlake house demanding marijuana and brutally beat his stepson. Rashad Williams, 21, and Christian Foster, 22, were shot in the back. Hughes fled.

Hughes was charged with first-degree murder under California's Provocative Act doctrine, versions of which have been on the books in many states for generations but are rarely used.

The Provocative Act doctrine does not require prosecutors to prove the accused intended to kill. Instead, "they have to show that it was reasonably foreseeable that the criminal enterprise could trigger a fatal response from the homeowner," said Brian Getz, a San Francisco defense attorney unconnected to the case.

The NAACP complained that prosecutors came down too hard on Hughes, who also faces robbery, burglary and assault charges. Prosecutors are not seeking the death penalty.

The Rev. Amos Brown, head of the San Francisco chapter of the NAACP and pastor at Hughes' church, said the case demonstrates the legal system is racist in remote Lake County, aspiring wine country 100 miles north of San Francisco. The sparsely populated county of 13,000 people is 91 percent white and 2 percent black.

Brown and other NAACP officials are asking why the homeowner is walking free. Tests showed Edmonds had marijuana and prescription medication in his system the night of the shooting. Edmonds had a prescription for both the pot and the medication to treat depression.

"This man had no business killing these boys," Brown said. "They were shot in the back. They had fled."

On Thursday, a judge granted a defense motion for a change of venue. The defense had argued that he would not be able to get a fair trial because of extensive local media coverage and the unlikelihood that Hughes could get a jury of his peers in the county. A new location for the trial will be selected Dec. 14.

The district attorney said that race played no part in the charges against Hughes and that the homeowner was spared prosecution because of evidence he was defending himself and his family, who were asleep when the assailants barged in at 4 a.m.

Edmonds' stepson, Dale Lafferty, suffered brain damage from the baseball bat beating he took during the melee. The 19-year-old lives in a rehabilitation center and can no longer feed himself.

"I didn't do anything wrong. All I did was defend my family and my children's lives," said Edmonds, 33. "I'm sad the kids are dead, I didn't mean to kill them."

He added: "Race has nothing to do with it other than this was a gang of black people who thought they were going to beat up this white family."

California's Provocative Act doctrine has primarily been used to charge people whose actions led to shooting deaths.
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In my opinion:
1) Not racism.
2) They beat a 19-year old with a baseball bat, gave him brain damage, and then wonder why they got shot while "leaving"?
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: Rare robbery case brings cries of racism

there is also no guarantee that they WERE fleeing.

he might have shot them while they were slamming that baseball bat upside his son's head...or, I think that if I saw somebody pointing a gun at me, I might instinctively turn my back.

maybe THIS kind of prosecution will slow the numbers of home invasions.

SOMETHING has to do it, short of Sharia law.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:31 AM
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Not racism...2
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Doesn't sound like racism to me.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:06 AM
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I'm not sure why an old, rarely used law is being used to charge someone (I kind of question that), but but a man of any color defending his family against violent intruders of any color is not being racist.

I get so tired of the word "racist" being thrown around so causally these days. This is just one of many examples I could cite on a personal level: I worked with a pregnant white woman once who was called a racist for explaining to a customer of color that take-out containers were provided for an all-you-can-eat (in house) buffet at an additional charge. (DUH!)

She was so floored by the accusation she didn't know what to say. I just wished she had thought to tell the customer that the baby she was carrying was bi-racial. "No" very often has nothing to do with racism (at least in this day and age).

I would like an explanation as to why someone is being charged under that particular law though. But then again if the crime breaks a law then the law gets used.

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I see racism all over this...


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Default Re: Rare robbery case brings cries of racism

Racism doesn't factor into this.

If you get killed while trying to rob somene, I say it's your own fault.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Rare robbery case brings cries of racism

I know I rely way to much on the show Law and Order, but it seems to me they mention that if someone is killed during the commission of a crime, even if you aren't the one that pulled the trigger, you are responsible.

For example, two guys rob a bank and the guard is killed, and you only are driving the getaway car, you can still be charged with murder.
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I know I rely way to much on the show Law and Order, but it seems to me they mention that if someone is killed during the commission of a crime, even if you aren't the one that pulled the trigger, you are responsible.

For example, two guys rob a bank and the guard is killed, and you only are driving the getaway car, you can still be charged with murder.
That is the law in Alabama. But I think it varies from state to state.
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Default Re: Rare robbery case brings cries of racism

Perhaps invoking this rarely used law is meant to act as a deterrent to future would-be intruders???

Just a guess, but racism is not a part of this from anything I can tell.
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