Political Wrinkles  

Go Back   Political Wrinkles > Political Forums > Civil Rights
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Civil Rights Discuss Anti-gay blackmailers demand protection money from gay marriage supporters at the Political Forums; San Diego businessman and Equality California board member Jim Abbott, whose firm recently donated $10,000 to EQCA's No on 8 ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2008, 02:09 PM
dabateman's Avatar
Mister Freedom2Love
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,470
Thanks: 152
Thanked 651 Times in 416 Posts
Default Anti-gay blackmailers demand protection money from gay marriage supporters

Quote:
San Diego businessman and Equality California board member Jim Abbott, whose firm recently donated $10,000 to EQCA's No on 8 campaign, received one of the letters from ProtectMarriage.com, which were sent to about thirty companies. "We are sure that you would want to review the way that they are using Abbott & Associates' name, since many more of your clients support traditional marriage than support same-sex marriage," it reads. "We respectfully request that Abbott & Associates withdraw its support of Equality California. Make a donation of a like amount to ProtectMarriage.com which will help us correct this error and restore Traditional Marriage."

"Were you to elect not to donate comparably," they threaten, "it would be a clear indication that you are in opposition to traditional marriage...The names of any companies and organizations that choose not to donate in like manner to ProtectMarriage.com but have given to Equality California will be published. It is only fair for Proposition 8 supporters to know which companies and organizations oppose traditional marriage."
PageOneQ | Anti-gay blackmailers demand protection money from gay marriage supporters

The right bitches about the equal time demanding by the left on the radio, but the left should be up in arms about this. Lawyers should be sent immediately to California and everyone involved with the creation, authorization, and mailing of this sickening letter should be sent to jail for blackmail.
__________________
Quote:
"The public does not like you to mislead or represent yourself to be something you're not. And the other thing that the public really does like is the self-examination to say, you know, I'm not perfect. I'm just like you. They don't ask their public officials to be perfect. They just ask them to be smart, truthful, honest, and show a modicum of good sense." Ann Richards, Former Texas Governor
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2008, 02:47 PM
faithful_servant's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Beautiful conservative Central Oregon
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,600
Thanks: 191
Thanked 351 Times in 297 Posts
Default Re: Anti-gay blackmailers demand protection money from gay marriage supporters

Quote:
Originally Posted by dabateman View Post
PageOneQ | Anti-gay blackmailers demand protection money from gay marriage supporters

The right bitches about the equal time demanding by the left on the radio, but the left should be up in arms about this. Lawyers should be sent immediately to California and everyone involved with the creation, authorization, and mailing of this sickening letter should be sent to jail for blackmail.
Excuse me!!! This is from the people who have repeatedly used the EXACT SAME TACTICS??? How many time have you heard about the homosexual left calling for boycotts of businesses? It's the same thing, using your positiont opush people around. But when it's used against you, all of a sudden it's "Call the ACLU!!!" "My rights are being violated!!!!" "Somebody get me a journalist!!!!!"
__________________
~
~
~

Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2008, 02:48 PM
dabateman's Avatar
Mister Freedom2Love
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,470
Thanks: 152
Thanked 651 Times in 416 Posts
Default Re: Anti-gay blackmailers demand protection money from gay marriage supporters

Quote:
Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
Excuse me!!! This is from the people who have repeatedly used the EXACT SAME TACTICS??? How many time have you heard about the homosexual left calling for boycotts of businesses? It's the same thing, using your positiont opush people around. But when it's used against you, all of a sudden it's "Call the ACLU!!!" "My rights are being violated!!!!" "Somebody get me a journalist!!!!!"
They didn't blackmail anyone! This is a violation of the LAW! Demanding money to prevent negative advertising... It's pure Mafia.
__________________
Quote:
"The public does not like you to mislead or represent yourself to be something you're not. And the other thing that the public really does like is the self-examination to say, you know, I'm not perfect. I'm just like you. They don't ask their public officials to be perfect. They just ask them to be smart, truthful, honest, and show a modicum of good sense." Ann Richards, Former Texas Governor
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to dabateman For This Useful Post:
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2008, 03:08 PM
faithful_servant's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Beautiful conservative Central Oregon
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,600
Thanks: 191
Thanked 351 Times in 297 Posts
Default Re: Anti-gay blackmailers demand protection money from gay marriage supporters

Quote:
Originally Posted by dabateman View Post
They didn't blackmail anyone! This is a violation of the LAW! Demanding money to prevent negative advertising... It's pure Mafia.
If the firms are so solidly committed to the cause they are supporting, why should they have an issue with having thier names publicized? Shouldn't people know what the businesses they support are supporting? Would you want to know if the law firm that handles your business arrangements supported an anti-homosexual org.? Of course you would and you'd scream bloody murder if anyone tried to stop you from knowing about it. But, God forbid that the tables be turned and those who oppose a pro-homosexual cause do the same thing. You need to accept that you're a hypocrite in this...
__________________
~
~
~

Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10-27-2008, 03:11 PM
dabateman's Avatar
Mister Freedom2Love
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,470
Thanks: 152
Thanked 651 Times in 416 Posts
Default Re: Anti-gay blackmailers demand protection money from gay marriage supporters

Quote:
Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
If the firms are so solidly committed to the cause they are supporting, why should they have an issue with having thier names publicized? Shouldn't people know what the businesses they support are supporting? Would you want to know if the law firm that handles your business arrangements supported an anti-homosexual org.? Of course you would and you'd scream bloody murder if anyone tried to stop you from knowing about it. But, God forbid that the tables be turned and those who oppose a pro-homosexual cause do the same thing. You need to accept that you're a hypocrite in this...
If there were progay groups that were BLACKMAILING people I would want them arrested too, but that's simply not the case. This letter demands financial support FOR PROP 8 or the name will be published. That is blackmail. Publishing the names of supporters simply for informational purposes is not a problem. Publishing the name of supporters if you're not properly paid off is blackmail and thus illegal and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
__________________
Quote:
"The public does not like you to mislead or represent yourself to be something you're not. And the other thing that the public really does like is the self-examination to say, you know, I'm not perfect. I'm just like you. They don't ask their public officials to be perfect. They just ask them to be smart, truthful, honest, and show a modicum of good sense." Ann Richards, Former Texas Governor
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to dabateman For This Useful Post:
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10-28-2008, 02:25 PM
foundit66's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: California
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,521
Thanks: 719
Thanked 1,387 Times in 890 Posts
Post Re: Anti-gay blackmailers demand protection money from gay marriage supporters

Quote:
Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
If the firms are so solidly committed to the cause they are supporting, why should they have an issue with having thier names publicized?
They don't.
Do you have any info on a firm which does have problem with their name publicized?

And this question is irrelevant to the issue of blackmail.
Just cause the person being blackmailed may not care if the information gets out does not excuse the illegality of the attempt to extort money.


Quote:
Originally Posted by faithful_servant
Shouldn't people know what the businesses they support are supporting?

You're running full tilt into "pointless" land.
Do I need to know if the business is headed by a Christian, Jew, or atheist?
How about black or white?
How about woman or man.

THIS is the underlying mentality at work here. Segregating based on prejudice.
They should know the quality of the business.
What YOU are talking about is trying to give bigots information that is irrelevant to the quality of the business.

You are trying to avoid the point of BLACKMAIL faithful_servant.
Is it because as a Republican, you have no moral problem with it?

Let's repeat it a few more times, cause I think you keep wanting to insist on ignoring the point...
BLACKMAIL is wrong.
BLACKMAIL is wrong.
BLACKMAIL is wrong.
BLACKMAIL is wrong.

If thinking that is "hypocritical" in your book, then you really need to get a new book that doesn't involve crayolas...
__________________
"As in a poker game where the chips were concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, the other fellows could stay in the game only by borrowing, when their credit ran out, the game stopped."
--Marriner S. Eccles, FDR's fed Chairman. (1951)
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to foundit66 For This Useful Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Search Engine Optimization and SEO Tools
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0