Proposed high school for gays isn't likely to open before 2012

cnredd · #1 (**permalink**) 09-16-2008, 04:01 AM

Quote:

During the past two years, Sarah Wurtz, an out lesbian at Lakeview High School, has learned to weather the jeers and stares of students and teachers with a sense of resignation.

"I don't like people looking at us like we're doing something completely wrong," said Wurtz, 17, whose girlfriend also attends the school. "I always feel more comfortable when I'm with people who accept it or are like me."

If she were to get her wish, it might look something like a proposed high school that would welcome lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and sexually questioning students—groups that supporters say often face violence and harassment at school. But the plan isn't likely to become a reality before 2012, and that's only if it passes through the bevy of criticism it faces from both sides of the political spectrum.

Conservatives say the Social Justice High School-Pride Campus would be a misuse of public funds and require administrators to take a moral stance on homosexuality, a judgment well above their pay grade. Even some gay rights advocates argue that isolating the gay and lesbian population from the mainstream would be damaging and prevent different groups of students from learning to interact.

The school proposal is in the early stages. A public hearing is set for Sept. 18, and the proposal requires approval by an evaluation team and then Chicago Public Schools Chief Arne Duncan before it goes before the school board.

Ah yes...

Nothing says "accept me!" like a little self-segregation...

I saw some videotape from the 60s doing the exact opposite...

tristanrobin · #2 (**permalink**) 09-16-2008, 08:51 AM

I am against this school.
We should never segregate the law-abiding citizens.
Now, it's already established that those who attack others are segregated; it's called reform school.

cnredd · #3 (**permalink**) 09-16-2008, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tristanrobin

I am against this school.
We should never segregate the law-abiding citizens.
Now, it's already established that those who attack others are segregated; it's called reform school.

Reform school was brought about due to student's ACTIONS...Not because they exist...

fxashun · #4 (**permalink**) 09-16-2008, 05:18 PM

Are there that many gays there? Maybe they should check the water system.

foundit66 · #5 (**permalink**) 09-17-2008, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnredd

Proposed high school for gays isn't likely to open before 2012
Ah yes...
Nothing says "accept me!" like a little self-segregation...

1) Setting in with the "accept me" strawman?

Personally, I would settle for simple non-discrimination.

2) There are some in every group.
I don't believe this is an idea embraced by any statistically significant portion of either "gays" or "liberals".
It's a hair-brained idea. From multiple ways, it's dumb, including the ways mentioned in the article. (For another perspective, if it were to become a reality, how many parents of gay kids would want to send their kids there? I sure as hell would not if I had gay kids.)

3) It's just in the "proposal" stage. I wouldn't be surprised if any vote on the matter quickly shot it down, and the only reason this news article came to light is because somebody had an idea with the clout to bring it to the "proposal" status.
I would be surprised if it made it past that...

dabateman · #6 (**permalink**) 09-17-2008, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fxashun

Are there that many gays there? Maybe they should check the water system.

Kindly provide evidence that homosexuality is transmitted via water supplies.

tristanrobin · #7 (**permalink**) 09-17-2008, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnredd

Reform school was brought about due to student's ACTIONS...Not because they exist...

uh
right

and if they don't bully, they're not bullies

bullying is an action

if they bully others, send them away

I don't understand your post

cnredd · #8 (**permalink**) 09-17-2008, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tristanrobin

uh
right

and if they don't bully, they're not bullies

bullying is an action

if they bully others, send them away

I don't understand your post

You're trying to equate how people ACT with what they ARE...They're two totally different categories...

crazyflamingos · #9 (**permalink**) 09-17-2008, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnredd

You're trying to equate how people ACT with what they ARE...They're two totally different categories...

How do you arrive at that? Tristan is saying that it is the bullies who need to be sent away rather than the gay kids. And if they don't bully then they aren't bullies.

Where do are and act come in?

foundit66 · #10 (**permalink**) 09-17-2008, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnredd

You're trying to equate how people ACT with what they ARE...They're two totally different categories...

I think you're misinterpreting Tristan's post.
I read it as more of an alternative action.

Instead of creating a "gay" school for the gays because of bullies (an option that appears unanimously rejected), we should employ the existing standard of "reform" schools for the bullies. (I assume there is some satire / sarcasm in Tristan's post as well...)
The "solution" to the situation IS NOT to create a "gay" school, but to use the EXISTING "reform" schools for the REAL problem. THAT is the segregation which should be employed...

Nobody is trying to "equate" the two, cause everybody here appears to be in agreement that the "gay" school is a bad idea.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to tristanrobin For This Useful Post:
crazyflamingos, dabateman, dga, forester814

The Following User Says Thank You to fxashun For This Useful Post:
saltwn

The Following User Says Thank You to tristanrobin For This Useful Post:
crazyflamingos