In other words, why should 5% of the population have fear and anguish when you play revenge and have the other 95% go through some fear and anguish for awhile...

Great way to acheive "equality"...

What's next?...Taking the gay college student over the straight one to get more "diversity"?...

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If a certain course of action makes the mouth-breathers furious, then that’s a good policy. – The Practical Environmentalist

If you've read anything I've said in this thread, you'd see that I AGRRE WITH YOU...

But BEFORE this legislation, the onus was on the ACCUSER...the accuser had to PROVE that the employer did so..."Innocent until proven guilty."...

But with "perception" included into the legislation, the onus is now on the EMPLOYER to PROVE that anything he did did NOT show that his actions were against the "protected classes"...And I'm not just talking the legal sense...

In the court of opublic opinion, an ACCUSATION is enough to cause damage because gays are so protected...So all a gay has to do is say "I PERCEIVE that the employer is biased against me...I have NOTHING CONCRETE, but I don't NEED TO because of the way the law is written."...

How do you PROVE "perception"?...In some cases, it's obvious...In others, it's not...

First, I don't know if there IS an answer...someone will always be pissed for something...

Just look at affirmative action...

You have a black guy who scores a 98 and a white guy who scores a 99 and the black guy gets in...You call that equality?...

But if you take out the "perception", you'll come alot closer to equality than with it still in there...

Imagine a law that said "You don't have to punch me in the face for me to accuse you of assault anymore...you just have to look at me wrong for me to accuse you of assault."...

Bullshit...

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If a certain course of action makes the mouth-breathers furious, then that’s a good policy. – The Practical Environmentalist

Then quite frankly, the only real source of disagreement centers around how much concern I give to the unsubstantiated "fears" you describe.

On one hand, we have real and active discrimination.
On the other, we have fear from employers over what a jury "might" do.

Your complaint seems to rely on abuse of the judicial system to not follow the letter and/or spirit of the law.
To which I say, the REAL problem is the judicial system not meeting the letter and/or spirit of the law.
THAT is what is must be fixed.

The gay employment discrimination legislation is not at fault.
Moreover, what you describe is in NO WAY UNIQUE to gays. It would apply to ALL legislation barring employment discrimination.
Your posts demonstrate that, but you fail to recognize the logical conclusion of such a position. ALL of the employment legislation would be lumped together, as either not being allowed or being allowed under your argument.


You need to watch how you phrase what you're saying, cause CF is right that you keep misrepresenting the situation.
"one false PERCEIVED step can now be REPRESENTED as wrong".

The legislation does not make the "perceived" step as wrong.

And I DO see the "culture of fear".
But it's not placed upon "the community". The "community" is fully behind legislation to stop gay employment discrimination.
The "fear" is on the part of people who would rather cater to a "fear" rather than end ACTUAL DISCRIMINATION.

I found it telling that in a later post, CF asked you point-blank how you would achieve equality.
You said point blank that you didn't know if there was an answer. You said that there will always be somebody pissed.
And then you obfuscated the hell out of the question.

Yes. There will always be somebody pissed. Fact of life, and I'm sure I could quote a couple phrases to you on the subject of "always be somebody pissed" that you already know.

What I see coming from you is that you would rather have gays be ACTUALLY discriminated against then try to do something about it.

And that is something YOU are on the "other side" for.

Maybe we should end some of the Christian protections against discrimination because of the exact same fears you present. I can give you ACTUAL examples where Christians have tried to claim "discrimination" against their Christianity when it wasn't so.
Or is it just gays that you feel comfortable giving in to the fear and ignoring the discrimination for?