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Nowhere does it say the fantasies you previously explained.
Nowhere does it say anything about proving a "gay lifestyle" as "mentally unhealthy" or "harmful".
Prove they were kicked out of their homes by parents who rejected their homosexual behavior. And then explain why this very small percentage of teenagers proves ANYTHING AT ALL.
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If you are blind to the statistical probability, if you cannot connect the dots, then you choose to be blind.
I am blind to the baseless assertions being made.

Prove that the 25% of homeless teenagers who engage in homosexuality were kicked out of their homes by their parents because they were engaging in homosexual behavior.
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Prove they were kicked out of their homes by parents who rejected their homosexual behavior. And then explain why this very small percentage of teenagers proves ANYTHING AT ALL.
Show where I claimed that they were all kicked out of their homes by parents who rejected their homosexual behavior in the first place?
If you were actually paying attention, you should already know I never said that, and have in fact contradicted that.
IF you were actually paying attention...

I'm talking about one OBVIOUS reason, that I have seen substantiated in a variety of people retelling their story.
It's VERY real.

And as for the "proves anything at all", you're obviously AGAIN not paying attention.
It goes back to the main point of the thread. The point that gays are thankful for GOOD parents, with reason.
As I stated, not all gays who have problems with their parents get kicked out. MOST do not.

You're obviously NOT wanting to talk about what is REALLY going on here, but instead spoiling to pick a fight.


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Prove that the 25% of homeless teenagers who engage in homosexuality were kicked out of their homes by their parents because they were engaging in homosexual behavior.
As dabateman already pointed out, "engaging in homosexuality" is irrelevant.
These kids were asked how THEY considered THEMSELVES, and they answered "gay".
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[quote=foundit66;31348]Show where I claimed that they were all kicked out of their homes by parents who rejected their homosexual behavior in the first place?

Msg. #3

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Was there some point to be made?

I think it was just made...

You>> To add to dabateman's point, there are too many parents out there that are so abjectly prejudiced against gays that they will kick a gay child out of the house when they find out.

Then in msg #10

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TristanRobin pointed out something I talked about earlier. To give a resource substantiating it...
Numerous research studies conducted over the past decade find that gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender (GLBT) youth make up 25-40% of the homeless youth population in NYC and other large cities. One study found half of 432 homeless youth surveyed identified as gay, lesbian, or bisexual (Clatts, et al., 1996).
Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Youth

Does the significance of that sink in at all to you?
This is very real.
And this is JUST counting the homeless.

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If you were actually paying attention, you should already know I never said that, and have in fact contradicted that.
If you were paying attention to your own post you would know you support the assertion and I have no time nor interest in having to go back and remind you of what you have asserted while at the same time weeding through your attempts to distract the discussion to one of style over substance.
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Show where I claimed that they were all kicked out of their homes by parents who rejected their homosexual behavior in the first place?
And then Stinger puts this up there...
Msg. #3
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Was there some point to be made?
I think it was just made...
You>> To add to dabateman's point, there are too many parents out there that are so abjectly prejudiced against gays that they will kick a gay child out of the house when they find out.
Gee.
Doesn't sound like I claimed they were "all kicked out of their homes by parents who rejected their homosexual behavior"...
"Too many" is nowhere near saying "all"...

Moving on.
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TristanRobin pointed out something I talked about earlier. To give a resource substantiating it...
Numerous research studies conducted over the past decade find that gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender (GLBT) youth make up 25-40% of the homeless youth population in NYC and other large cities. One study found half of 432 homeless youth surveyed identified as gay, lesbian, or bisexual (Clatts, et al., 1996).
Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Youth

Does the significance of that sink in at all to you?
This is very real.
And this is JUST counting the homeless.
Wow. I never even mentioned ANY reason for why they were kicked out there...

Were you trying to prove yourself wrong Stinger?


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If you were paying attention to your own post you would know you support the assertion ...
Flat out lie.
Like I said earlier, if you had actually READ my posts you would have seen that I have CONTRADICTED such a view.
Let me say that again. I have CONTRADICTED the belief you want to claim I have...
Go back and check out my response to cnredd on this thread.


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... and I have no time nor interest in having to go back and remind you of what you have asserted while at the same time weeding through your attempts to distract the discussion to one of style over substance.
ROFLMAO!
You keep throwing that accusation out there when you are losing.
This has NOTHING to do with "style over substance".
You FALSELY CLAIMED I have put forth a position that I have not.
That's "strawman", and pointing out strawman is ENTIRELY relevant to the issue.

Now, I have no doubt that you now want to tuck your tail between your legs and run off cause I am not going to play your stupid reindeer games.
It's kind of tough for you to argue against a strawman when people repeatedly point out that it's a strawman, eh...
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