I believe there was a question earlier regarding "What is the Gay Agenda?" that hasn't really been answered yet.

So let's get to that now...

From "Conservapedia", here is what they claim the "conservative" view-point is...

Gay Agenda
The homosexual agenda, or homosexual ideology, consists of a set of beliefs and objectives. The ideology and goals, as explained further below, include restricting free speech, obtaining special treatment, distorting science, and interfering with freedom of association.

It is an agenda that gay rights activists set in the late 1980s, in a book called After the Ball, where they laid out a six-point plan for how they could transform the beliefs of ordinary Americans with regard to homosexual behavior — in a decade-long time frame:

"The agenda of homosexual activists is basically to change America from what they perceive as looking down on homosexual behavior, to the affirmation of and societal acceptance of homosexual behavior." [1]
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia referred to the "so-called homosexual agenda" in Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003) (dissenting opinion).


Focus on the Family quotes below from a leading book in the homosexual movement which outlines the points of the homosexual agenda:[2][3]

"Talk about gays and gayness as loudly and as often as possible."
"Portray gays as victims, not as aggressive challengers."
"Give homosexual protectors a just cause."
"Make gays look good."
"Make the victimizers look bad."
"Get funds from corporate America."

United States Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia wrote:
“ Today's opinion is the product of a Court, which is the product of a law-profession culture, that has largely signed on to the so-called homosexual agenda, by which I mean the agenda promoted by some homosexual activists directed at eliminating the moral opprobrium that has traditionally attached to homosexual conduct.[4]

The goals of the homosexual movement include:

1. censoring biblical condemnations of homosexuality and evidence that the "gay gene" is a hoax[5] [6]
2. establishing affirmative action for homosexuals[7]
3. expand hate crimes legislation to include sexual orientation[8]
4. ending the military's and Boy Scout's restrictions on homosexuality[9]
5. promote homosexuality in schools[10]
   in places like Massachusetts and California — where the gay lobby is the strongest — it starts as early as pre-school. They tell seven- or eight-year-old boys — "If you only like boys, there's a chance you may be homosexual." Or — "If you only like girls, maybe you are lesbian." Well, at that age, all members of the opposite sex "have cooties."
   You're planting a seed that can totally mess up the normal development process later, when at 12 or 14, kids enter the age of sexual confusion and discovering the opposite sex. [11]
6. promote science that legitimizes homosexuality, such as claims of a never-identified gay gene[12]
7. force businesses to accommodate their lifestyle
   Suing an online dating website for discrimination [13]
8. getting more rights in prison
   Gay and Lesbian Prisoners in California Allowed Conjugal Visits [14]

Homosexual Agenda - Conservapedia

Oy vey!
You need hip boots to wade through that b.s.
Some of it glaringly inaccurate. Some of it taking isolated examples and proclaiming it as an "agenda" for all homosexuals. Some of it just as accurate for the "anti-gay" side of the fence, in their own mirrored way...
(Like the anti-gay organization propensity to themselves "Talk about gays and gayness as loudly and as often as possible." )

(The point of posting this is not to side-track on the issues contained above, although I predict that inevitable attempt. The point is to demonstrate what people CLAIM/SAY when they talk about the "gay agenda".)

Getting back to the original point that the term "Gay Agenda" is used PROPAGANDICALLY, look at how they define it for proof!


Disclaimer: I use the word "'conservative' view-point" above with air quotes, mimicking the web-site's claims as to the basis of their explanation.
Personally, I find the definition to cater to the extreme right-wing anti-gay in its demeanor and phrasing. Most conservatives agree with gay equality on a long list of gay discrimination issues.
Obviously, not all...

It doesn't take too much thought to see that it's all ridiculous.

The very premise that the Kirk and Madsen book "After the Ball" was anything than the opinions of two writers is absurd.

The DNC have a platform. The GOP have a platform. There IS no gay platform.

In addition:
How does that differ from ANY political movement?

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What issue you asked if there was a "gay agenda" I said yes.

Why do you object to the proper term being used?

There's all kinds of "agenda's" out there.


Not particularly.


They're your connotations not mine if you were really wanting to discuss something else then you should have said so in the first place.


No, why should it be are they embarrassed by the issues they are concerned with or something?

Last I looked it was round and there is a gay agenda of issues, still going to deny there is are political and social issues of particular concern and interest to those who support homosexuality?


Trying to shift the issue, how predictable.

It's not about demonizing but curious how you think acknowledging that there is an agenda of homosexual issues.

Speak for yourself.

What claim, that homosexuals and supporters of homosexuality don't have a set on particular issues, both political and societal, regarding homosexuality that they support and promote?

Cut to the chase do you agree of disagree with that.



So? That was a nice waste of time.

Well Gay Agenda is not something I ususally say everyday either, so what?

What is it that is objectionable to you when someone simply acknowledges that that there is a gay political agenda?


No.


Kiss off, if you're so desperate as to now have to try and associate me with racist that it's, take your post elsewhere.

Here, want to read about an "agenda"

go here

Liberal Agenda Index Archive

So why does using the word agenda disturb you so?

Why do you keep asking questions which are clearly answered for you?
I have already explained my objections. Clearly and succinctly.


Pointless truism.


Meaningless response with no substantiation or explanation.


They are the connotations employed by the people typically using the term.
When somebody objects to your specific use, then you should take that objection up with them.


Obviously not, because we have no problem discussing the issue.


You really should stop trying to pretend I am "denying" something I have never "denied" at all.
I have stated my arguments clearly.
You refuse to address them.


Again, as it has been already explained to you, the issue is over the connotations of the word.


Let me rephrase then...
Most people can admit the obvious that the question itself, assuming "straight agenda", creates a sinister presumption regarding the motivations of straights.


The claim that the primary use of "gay agenda" is an attempt to demonize gays.


It clearly demonstrates that despite the existence of many more parents, with goals that fit the definition of "Parental Agendas", we don't employ the phrase in typical, every day usage.
The phrase "Gay Agenda" is employed as a propagandic term to demonize gays.


It would appear you have no real interest in the topic of this thread if you can't figure out "so what"...


Meaningless response with no substantiation or explanation.


It's not desparation, but accurate categorization.
Can you explain why you think it is inaccurate?
Didn't think so...


Why do you keep repeating questions, when the problem with the phrase "gay agenda" has been explained to you repeatedly?

because the neoconservative right wing Christian lunatic fringe has usurped the word and made it a negative term.

I don't LIKE that they've done it. But they've done it.

Now when somebody hears the word 'agenda,' they translate it in their heads to 'conspiracy'

The same way the neoconservative right wing Christian lunatic fringe has managed to form the language on almost every social issue - which then has to be fought on that basis by everybody else.

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Wow. Way to completely go off the deep end. I suppose you just wanted to type 'neoconservative right wing Christian lunatic fringe' several times.

'Agenda' is a common word. It hasn't been hijacked by anyone.

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you're wrong

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"No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities."
...Christian Nestell Bovee

How is that "off the deep end"?

I don't think he was calling all right-wingers or all Christians by that label. Each part of that phrase has an additive attribute.
Like saying "Cherry red, 1967 Mustang" means only specific Mustangs, excluding a lot that aren't cherry red or 1967 model.


Way to oppose numerous posts with a variety of proof, without one real word of commentary on what has been shown.

The phrase "gay agenda" has been utilized propagandically against gays.
It has been used to stereo-type gays.
It has been used to help further strawman arguments against gays.
I support that with a variety of posts (and links) already shown.

Ball is in your court if your interested...

I thought neo-cons were originally Jews.

Well, when you put the word agenda with plenty of other words there's negative connotation:

right wing agenda
left wing agenda
feminist agenda
neo-con agenda
environmentalist agenda
corporate agenda
staff meeting agenda ... you should see our staff meetings!
evangelical agenda
big oil agenda
white agenda
black agenda
muslim agenda


Saying that the word 'agenda' has been hijacked by any particular group is nonsense. Anytime anyone wants to 'label' a group they use the word.

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