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Old 05-19-2008, 04:04 PM
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It's not forced on anyone, ever.

You can change the channel... you can move your kid to a different school. Welcome to America, where diversity is a fact of life. Children should know about it. I do not see any harm in telling little Johnny that Jimmy has two moms. They are not talking sex in any of this, they are showing different family structures.

As far as music goes... "I kissed a girl and liked it" sounds better to me than "smack my bitch up"...

just sayin.
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Some parents worry too much and others don't worry enough! So much depends on the maturity of the child and their personality.

A kiss is just a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh.The fundamental things apply
As time goes by.Music and words by Herman Hupfeld

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Some parents worry too much and others don't worry enough! So much depends on the maturity of the child and their personality.

A kiss is just a kiss, a sigh is just a sigh.The fundamental things apply
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dga: Maybe that's why my daughter asked me what it meant to be gay when she was 6 or so, . I get notices from her school on other classes, that I might object to their teachings like say sex-ed, where they give me the option of her attending or not. I would not be against this topic being covered in school, as long as I am notified.
I would be worried about them teaching her about sex. That is I would be very involved-maybe even attend one of the classes (to keep from embarrassing an older kid-I might attend one he was not in). Talk over any literature they give him or her.
They gave my son condom advise and a brochure when he was 10 or 11. I went over it with him and that led to a discussion of AIDS and other diseases.
Be involved, that's the best you can do. That way you don't have to rely on hearsay to know what's going on at school.
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Yup...

A "diversity book bag" in kindergarten?!?!...
Yes, people are out to turn your children into homos or at the very least faghags.
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Yes, people are out to turn your children into homos or at the very least faghags.
Hyberbole...

What I'm pointing out is that there are schools, groups, networks, etc. that force ACCEPTANCE of this...Not TOLERANCE mind you...ACCEPTANCE...

...and at an age that many parents disagree with...

But since when do parents count?...Someone told me "It Takes A Village" afterall...
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Hyberbole...

What I'm pointing out is that there are schools, groups, networks, etc. that force ACCEPTANCE of this...Not TOLERANCE mind you...ACCEPTANCE...

...and at an age that many parents disagree with...

But since when do parents count?...Someone told me "It Takes A Village" afterall...
Parent's count when they keep their children home and do it themselves. Since they don't want their child to share the general values of the educated they can enjoy the benefits of doing it themselves. You don't HAVE to send your child to public schools, you merely have to educate them.
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Parent's count when they keep their children home and do it themselves.
And parents DON'T count the second a child walks into a public school?...

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Since they don't want their child to share the general values of the educated they can enjoy the benefits of doing it themselves. You don't HAVE to send your child to public schools, you merely have to educate them.
Merely?!?!...

It's THEIR tax dollars funding those schools, too, ya know...

Nice to see you believe parents "merely" have to educate them but if they do so by taking advantage of their own taxdollars their input becomes nil...
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And parents DON'T count the second a child walks into a public school?...

Merely?!?!...

It's THEIR tax dollars funding those schools, too, ya know...

Nice to see you believe parents "merely" have to educate them but if they do so by taking advantage of their own taxdollars their input becomes nil...
Tax is not like a purchase. You pay tax if you have children or not. It is not a direct payment for services received therefore there is no direct say. If they want to have the values of the school changed, they need to elect different leaders who are willing to enshrine discrimination into the law. Otherwise, homosexuals are making the biggest investment in education as there is no return on their investment. They are merely paying into the system where most heterosexuals breakeven. (using your direct exchange theory) In that case, in pure accounting terms, the homosexuals would have the most say in what happens as the heterosexuals have already received a return on their capital through the education of their children.
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Some parents show concern over when their kid learns about homosexuality.
But in all honesty, how many show any concern over the fact that often, it is neither the school, nor a homosexual, nor the parents who give the child their first exposure to the concept of "homosexuality" to the child.
It's the fellow class-mates.

Polls have shown that "fag" is a very common slur amongst kids. The negative condemnation of gays comes early as a school-yard societal "lesson".

Quite frankly, on some subconscious level (or possibly very conscious) I think some people who don't want "gay" in the main-stream would very much prefer that kids learn the word "fag" before they learn exactly what that means. Obviously not true of all, but one has to wonder about parents who kick up quite a fuss over a "gay" book, yet not a mention over what the other kids bandy about the school-yard.
And mind you, I am talking about EXACTLY what "homosexuality" means and not the distorted stereo-typing and prejudiced statements that often get bandied about like some Oklahoma politicians, or by schoolyard kids...

To those parents who want control over when their kid learns about such things, please be painfully aware that more than likely that you will NOT control when your kid learns the word "fag" (unless you're of the Fred Phelps mindset and you're the one teaching it to the child).

A responsible parent would not want their child to learn such misconceptions like "you can't get pregnant on the first time" or "jumping up and down afterwards prevents pregnancy".
They would want to teach their kid the facts before the child "learned" such things from other class-mates.

Considering how ridiculously prevalent hearing slurs like "fag" or "that's so gay" are in our schools, parents might want to consider that in deciding the "right time" to talk to your kid about homosexuality's existence, unless you're comfortable with the slur "fag" being the first thing your kid learns on the subject...
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