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Old 04-22-2008, 03:20 PM
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That said, these are kids just trying to bring their point across, and not doing it in a very helpful way.
Well then tell us what their point IS...

Seriously...If you want to shrug it off and say they are trying to get a message across, then explain to us what that message is...

I KNOW what the message is...F* America...I don't see a a spin on it...
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Are all of these people an organized group. Or are we stringing them all together to make a different point.
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Are all of these people an organized group. Or are we stringing them all together to make a different point.
Nope...It's all the same point...

Mexicans, nomatter how you interpret their reasons for coming to America(need work, join a gang, drugs), one thing is perfectly clear...

They do NOT wasnt to assimilate...They want to come to America and treat the place as if it was Mexico...

If you think people are pissed because they have to press "1" for English NOW, just wait until 20 years from now...when they'll have to press "2" for English...
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Nope...It's all the same point...

Mexicans, nomatter how you interpret their reasons for coming to America(need work, join a gang, drugs), one thing is perfectly clear...

They do NOT wasnt to assimilate...They want to come to America and treat the place as if it was Mexico...

If you think people are pissed because they have to press "1" for English NOW, just wait until 20 years from now...when they'll have to press "2" for English...
You must know different Mexicans. If you want to get mad at someone get made at those in power that don't defend our border. We are in full agreement there.
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You must know different Mexicans. If you want to get mad at someone get made at those in power that don't defend our border. We are in full agreement there.
I'm allowed to be mad at both...

Don't move the goalposts and add the government into it when the discussion was PURELY about the people insulting America by putting Mexico first in our own land...
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I'm allowed to be mad at both...

Don't move the goalposts and add the government into it when the discussion was PURELY about the people insulting America by putting Mexico first in our own land...
Kids. Kids that are likely American and feel that they are being rejected because of their heritage, and are acting out (albeit in a stupid way). Just because Hispanics want to keep their culture, does not mean they don't assimilate in this country (you can have roots and wings). They're not the ones who make you "press one" for English. Those are the advertisers who cater to them. I for one agree wholeheartedly that they should all learn English, but assimilation takes time.

I don't hear you complaining about all those Chinese people who barely speak English when you're ordering your pork fried rice, or the Indian women walking around in their traditional robes (with that strong smell of curry). Talk about double standards!!!
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We of a certain generation are all used to the pranks by teenagers such as running a pair of underwear up a flag pole. Or team colors. But we would have been shocked to have someone run a different country flag up a pole and desecrate or mock the American one. I don't think anyone would have been expelled, but maybe suspended and their parents would have been notified.

Otherwise it depends on the circumstances. But at a time when passions are at a peak due to unemployment, someone should and probably did (I hope) clue these kids and their moms/dads in that it was kinda stupid.
And BTW, dga, I object very verbally every time I have to go into a convenience store where there is a musty smell. I've even told a few people, "Look, I know they may not have had a lot of water where you come from, but we do not use oil to clean ourselves and this smell is offensive."
As for the language, the kids pick it up much easier than even well educated adults.
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And BTW, dga, I object very verbally every time I have to go into a convenience store where there is a musty smell. I've even told a few people, "Look, I know they may not have had a lot of water where you come from, but we do not use oil to clean ourselves and this smell is offensive."
Well, that's one way to go about it,
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Well, that's one way to go about it,
Yeah, I consider it a public service announcement.
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A bunch of kids act like a bunch of kids and people start freaking out. All of the sudden this story has some sort of major relevance on society as a whole. I think some folks are anxious to find a bigger story here.

I think some people miss the point. These kids are doing what they feel is right and so doesn't the Mexican govt. There is more to this than some kids
acting out. In their homes they get plenty to form these ideas. I think Spence hit the nail right on the head. And we haven't mentioned the crime wave brought on by a lot who feel this way.
In 1919 this was the idea so what happened?

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